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Driving mode selection, driving me nuts

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#1 ·
MY19 Kodiaq. Driving Mode Selection won't stay in Individual Mode after i start the car.

Anybody solve this problem? It is a WLTP regulations that the car do like this but please, it is a annoying thing :evil:

Any help on that..
 
#2 ·
Yeah it's normal and not a problem per se. Don't get confused about the driving mode and the gearbox selection/mode as they are two different things, for example the car can be in normal mode and the gearbox can be in sport.
 
#4 ·
Zach said:
Mine stays, however I do have the driver profiles on my car
That makes sense, I don't have that on this one, the new one has been ordered with it.
 
#5 ·
Never had a problem always stayed where I left it , usually in individual. I don't have profiles set that I know of. Is it possible someone set up a profile for eco or something?
As in the dealer
 
#6 ·
If I leave mine in sport and go back to it the infotainment system tells me I'm in sport but the instrument panel will tell me I am in normal. This suggests the car is still in sport but the gearbox has defaulted to normal mode.
 
#8 ·
I have'y tried 'Individual' . But it does annoy me that when I put it in 'eco', it reverts to 'normal evry time I restart the car.
I must try 'individual' and see what happens.
 
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#9 ·
I drive in ECO mode and it drives me nuts that I have to select it every time. It's even more annoying that ECO mode turns on start/stop so I have to turn that off afterwards too. It's not as if one can start the car and immediately select it but must wait for the infotainment to boot up before the mode button will work with it. Are people saying that if I configure "Individual" to ECO settings then effectively a home grown ECO mode will stay on by default when I start the car?

So far the three things I would change on this vehicle are:

1) Make start/stop stop the car a few seconds after the vehicle has stopped and never before the wheels have stopped turning (!).
2) Make the drive mode stay selected.
3) Get rid of the black plastic panel between the front and rear doors. It needs to be metal, like on my previous car, like on my wife's car. Plastic scratches. Every stray branch sticking out into the road has a go at the plastic on my car and it is now suitably scratched yet only only two months old. Not everyone drives cars in tree free towns, some of us use narrow country lanes with overhanging trees and few passing places.
 
#10 ·
You mean the polished b pillars ? If so then yes they scratch but also polish back up ok I don't think it's plastic or do you mean the window surround and seals
 
#11 ·
Just tried b driver selection on Individual but without sport mode or steering. Just eco and it reverts every time I switch off. Drives me mad as well!
 
#13 ·
Silverbear said:
It's not as if one can start the car and immediately select it but must wait for the infotainment to boot up before the mode button will work with it. Are people saying that if I configure "Individual" to ECO settings then effectively a home grown ECO mode will stay on by default when I start the car?
Individual mode will stay set, but the gearbox will always revert to Normal. If you have the off-road button you can flip the gearbox back to eco mode easily every time you start without waiting for the infotainment system - just tap off-road twice to turn it on and back off again, and the gearbox then sets itself to eco (assuming you were in eco mode or individual mode when you switched off last)
 
#14 ·
Colin Lambert said:
Just tried b driver selection on Individual but without sport mode or steering. Just eco and it reverts every time I switch off. Drives me mad as well!
Yes. This is how the car is doing! Wtf! Total bshit. Press a hundred buttons every single time after restart.

Local dealer here in Finland is helpful and tryed to modify VCDS but no results yet. Too many possibilities to go wrong they said.

My car (build in march 2019) won't keep individual or any mode in memory. Settings will stay in memory of course but the mode is back to Normal after you restart the car.
 
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#15 ·
C2atb said:
You mean the polished b pillars ? If so then yes they scratch but also polish back up ok I don't think it's plastic or do you mean the window surround and seals
Yes, the b pillars. I don't think they will polish up when I can feel the scratch with my nails. It's the nature of the narrow roads I drive on, it's either scrape the protruding branch or hit the bus bearing down on you. Could be worse, I've ruined suspension in the past on the craters that started life as pot holes.
 
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#16 ·
MrTrilby said:
Silverbear said:
It's not as if one can start the car and immediately select it but must wait for the infotainment to boot up before the mode button will work with it. Are people saying that if I configure "Individual" to ECO settings then effectively a home grown ECO mode will stay on by default when I start the car?
Individual mode will stay set, but the gearbox will always revert to Normal. If you have the off-road button you can flip the gearbox back to eco mode easily every time you start without waiting for the infotainment system - just tap off-road twice to turn it on and back off again, and the gearbox then sets itself to eco (assuming you were in eco mode or individual mode when you switched off last)
I tried individual on the way home, setting 'driving' to ECO. On restarting, the DSG is set back to normal. I don't have an off-road button. It might be the drive mode button will cycle through the modes before the infotainment boots: I'll try that but the whole thing seems daft to me, surely the obvious default mode is the last one set.
 
#17 ·
Old and Grumpy said:
All of this just makes me very thankful I am driving a relatively "simple" Kodi. Everything I set remains in place! 😁
I used to say exactly the same when I had my 150bhp 2X4 SE DSG in moon white. I loved it, however............

I now have a 190bhp 4X4 SE L DSG and it's the dogs, I love it so much more than the SE it's untrue. Feels like a totally different car to drive.
 
#18 ·
Mr Trilby said,
Individual mode will stay set, but the gearbox will always revert to Normal.

Not on my Karoq it doesn't.
 
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#19 ·
Plodd said:
Old and Grumpy said:
All of this just makes me very thankful I am driving a relatively "simple" Kodi. Everything I set remains in place! 😁
I used to say exactly the same when I had my 150bhp 2X4 SE DSG in moon white. I loved it, however............

I now have a 190bhp 4X4 SE L DSG and it's the dogs, I love it so much more than the SE it's untrue. Feels like a totally different car to drive.
My wifes car is 73 bhp and does 0-60 in about a day and a half but I prefer driving it to my Kodiaq. The Kodiaq is a lovely car in any guise but my wifes car is much easier to drive. I can slip the clutch and gently feather the traditional handbrake so that stopping and starting is smooth and doesn't 'lurch'. I can open the drivers door and look back when reversing carefully without a complaint and it doesn't stand on the brakes automatically when the forward radar is unnecessarily upset because it doesn't have any such technology and with the right tyres it'll go more or less anywhere I'm likely to want to take it. Best of all I can put the key in the ignition, turn on the engine, and there are no buttons I need to press to configure the car.

I understand where car manufacturers are heading but for me they are not quite there yet with the technology.
 
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#20 ·
Colin Lambert said:
Mr Trilby said,
Individual mode will stay set, but the gearbox will always revert to Normal.

Not on my Karoq it doesn't.
Neither does my Kodiaq. Whatever I set it reverts to Normal. I have verified this morning that if I press the drive mode button three times immediately after switching on the engine that will put the car in ECO mode before the infotainment has booted. I can live with that.

Foot brake, push the ignition, 1...2...3 with the mode button, mirrors, signal and I'm off....
 
#21 ·
Silverbear said:
My wifes car ... I can open the drivers door and look back when reversing ...
Yeah that is a bit annoying. Given the lack of visibility in the Kodiaq and the inability to maneuver with the door open, the Area view camera should be standard on all models.
 
#22 ·
gojoholo said:
Silverbear said:
My wifes car ... I can open the drivers door and look back when reversing ...
Yeah that is a bit annoying. Given the lack of visibility in the Kodiaq and the inability to maneuver with the door open, the Area view camera should be standard on all models.
So drop the window and/or adjust the door mirror, what's the problem?

Also, before you get in the car it's good pratice to walk round the back and memorise what obstructions may have to be avoided, (and a quick look at the tyres). It's not that difficult - how did we all manage manoevering before the days of all these modern gizmos? We all used a bit of common sense! And if you think the rear visibility of a Kodiaq is bad, try reversing an Austin 10, (no wing mirrors at all and a very small rear window), or an A30, (with wing mirrors so far forward you couldn't reach them to adjust them and with a very limited field of view).

Remember, this is an old fart talking, from the days of SU carburetors and dash pots, (ask your Dad), distributors, leaded petrol, oil changes every 3,000 miles, cross ply tyres, no seat belts, no air bags, no ABS, no servo assisted brakes, no power steering, no tyre pressure monitoring, no front radar, etc. etc. etc. etc............. How did we ever manage I wonder?

OK, I'm ready for the flak! You youngsters feel free to fire off a few volleys at me.

:roll:
 
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#23 ·
gojoholo said:
Silverbear said:
My wifes car ... I can open the drivers door and look back when reversing ...
Yeah that is a bit annoying. Given the lack of visibility in the Kodiaq and the inability to maneuver with the door open, the Area view camera should be standard on all models.
Much easier to just allow the door to be open. Technology isn't always required to fix a problem. Even if it is deemed appropriate to prevent the car moving forward with a door open I fail to see why this must be applied to reversing. I've been opening doors while reversing for 35 years. Never needed a camera.
 
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#24 ·
Old and Grumpy said:
gojoholo said:
Silverbear said:
My wifes car ... I can open the drivers door and look back when reversing ...
Yeah that is a bit annoying. Given the lack of visibility in the Kodiaq and the inability to maneuver with the door open, the Area view camera should be standard on all models.
So drop the window and/or adjust the door mirror, what's the problem?

Also, before you get in the car it's good pratice to walk round the back and memorise what obstructions may have to be avoided, (and a quick look at the tyres). It's not that difficult - how did we all manage manoevering before the days of all these modern gizmos? We all used a bit of common sense! And if you think the rear visibility of a Kodiaq is bad, try reversing an Austin 10, (no wing mirrors at all and a very small rear window), or an A30, (with wing mirrors so far forward you couldn't reach them to adjust them and with a very limited field of view).

Remember, this is an old fart talking, from the days of SU carburetors and dash pots, (ask your Dad), distributors, leaded petrol, oil changes every 3,000 miles, cross ply tyres, no seat belts, no air bags, no ABS, no servo assisted brakes, no power steering, no tyre pressure monitoring, no front radar, etc. etc. etc. etc............. How did we ever manage I wonder?

OK, I'm ready for the flak! You youngsters feel free to fire off a few volleys at me.

:roll:
Opening a window or adjusting a door mirror is not as useful as opening a door though. First of all it is much slower having to wait for a window to open or operate a mirror, more so in busy traffic and people beeping impatiently. Secondly when I open a door I can see where the car is from the A pillar all the way to the back of the car including up the back to the rear of the roof and I can see with my own eyes rather than through a camera which quite possibly has introduced distortions depending on the focal length of its lens. Also, and I find this with the reversing camera, using the infotainment screen to view the camera means I'm looking the wrong way! I'm looking forward when I should be looking back. These reversing cameras need screens at the back of the car so that when you are looking back you see the camera screen AND you are looking the right way. Thinking about it as I write this putting the screen in the dash is not the best place!
 
#25 ·
Silverbear said:
Old and Grumpy said:
gojoholo said:
Yeah that is a bit annoying. Given the lack of visibility in the Kodiaq and the inability to maneuver with the door open, the Area view camera should be standard on all models.
So drop the window and/or adjust the door mirror, what's the problem?

Also, before you get in the car it's good pratice to walk round the back and memorise what obstructions may have to be avoided, (and a quick look at the tyres). It's not that difficult - how did we all manage manoevering before the days of all these modern gizmos? We all used a bit of common sense! And if you think the rear visibility of a Kodiaq is bad, try reversing an Austin 10, (no wing mirrors at all and a very small rear window), or an A30, (with wing mirrors so far forward you couldn't reach them to adjust them and with a very limited field of view).

Remember, this is an old fart talking, from the days of SU carburetors and dash pots, (ask your Dad), distributors, leaded petrol, oil changes every 3,000 miles, cross ply tyres, no seat belts, no air bags, no ABS, no servo assisted brakes, no power steering, no tyre pressure monitoring, no front radar, etc. etc. etc. etc............. How did we ever manage I wonder?

OK, I'm ready for the flak! You youngsters feel free to fire off a few volleys at me.

:roll:
Opening a window or adjusting a door mirror is not as useful as opening a door though. First of all it is much slower having to wait for a window to open or operate a mirror, more so in busy traffic and people beeping impatiently. Secondly when I open a door I can see where the car is from the A pillar all the way to the back of the car including up the back to the rear of the roof and I can see with my own eyes rather than through a camera which quite possibly has introduced distortions depending on the focal length of its lens. Also, and I find this with the reversing camera, using the infotainment screen to view the camera means I'm looking the wrong way! I'm looking forward when I should be looking back. These reversing cameras need screens at the back of the car so that when you are looking back you see the camera screen AND you are looking the right way. Thinking about it as I write this putting the screen in the dash is not the best place!
As long as somebody doesn't take the door, (and your hand), off as they pass too close!!!
 
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#26 ·
Old and Grumpy said:
Silverbear said:
Old and Grumpy said:
So drop the window and/or adjust the door mirror, what's the problem?

Also, before you get in the car it's good pratice to walk round the back and memorise what obstructions may have to be avoided, (and a quick look at the tyres). It's not that difficult - how did we all manage manoevering before the days of all these modern gizmos? We all used a bit of common sense! And if you think the rear visibility of a Kodiaq is bad, try reversing an Austin 10, (no wing mirrors at all and a very small rear window), or an A30, (with wing mirrors so far forward you couldn't reach them to adjust them and with a very limited field of view).

Remember, this is an old fart talking, from the days of SU carburetors and dash pots, (ask your Dad), distributors, leaded petrol, oil changes every 3,000 miles, cross ply tyres, no seat belts, no air bags, no ABS, no servo assisted brakes, no power steering, no tyre pressure monitoring, no front radar, etc. etc. etc. etc............. How did we ever manage I wonder?

OK, I'm ready for the flak! You youngsters feel free to fire off a few volleys at me.

:roll:
Opening a window or adjusting a door mirror is not as useful as opening a door though. First of all it is much slower having to wait for a window to open or operate a mirror, more so in busy traffic and people beeping impatiently. Secondly when I open a door I can see where the car is from the A pillar all the way to the back of the car including up the back to the rear of the roof and I can see with my own eyes rather than through a camera which quite possibly has introduced distortions depending on the focal length of its lens. Also, and I find this with the reversing camera, using the infotainment screen to view the camera means I'm looking the wrong way! I'm looking forward when I should be looking back. These reversing cameras need screens at the back of the car so that when you are looking back you see the camera screen AND you are looking the right way. Thinking about it as I write this putting the screen in the dash is not the best place!
As long as somebody doesn't take the door, (and your hand), off as they pass too close!!!
Indeed! But the car has door mirrors (I almost typed wing mirrors) and one assumes that the driver will at some point need to exit the car by opening the door anyway.