School Run Kodiaq - Diesel/Petrol

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Re: School Run Kodiaq - Diesel/Petrol

Post by Professor1999 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:12 pm

Jon Edwards wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:31 pm
Professor1999 wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:08 pm
Jon Edwards wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:41 pm


I got our diesel on a personal hire contract so no issues with residual values and also worked out cheaper than PCP. I also drove the 1.4 petrol recently and found it seriously lacking even by Kodiaq standards, very lack lustre and uninspiring. I could never recommend such a large vehicle with a 1.4 Petrol, the 2 litre is a better option if diesel is a concern although I would recommend a test drive in one to see if fits your driving style.
Diesels are often the more lack lustre and uninspiring to drive (unless very high powered) due to the turbo lag. I test drove a sportline tdi as it was the only engine available in that trim and thought the turbo lag was terrible.
Maybe my driving style differs to yours but a 1.4 petrol is hardly high adrenalinedriving either, all I can say is that I have never been left wanting more power whilst overtaking with the 2.0 (150bhp) diesel, it’s not the same as my old vRS but considering it’s a Kodiaq I can’t complain. Neither of these engines are exciting let’s face it.
Fair point, but if i had had the issues the OP did, i can’t imagine i’d be considering another diesel. Fyi I am not anti diesel, i happily drove one for 10+ years without any issues. Best advice as you said is to test drive oneself.
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Re: School Run Kodiaq - Diesel/Petrol

Post by eLTe » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:59 pm

I’ve never found the 1.4 lacking in power, either in town or on the motorway regardless of what’s on board. Of course it isn’t going to set the world on fire but neither is the 150 diesel.

Let’s be honest here. The guy said he does mainly low mileage runs with the kids on board to / from school so assume it’s in and around town. This is exactly what we do in ours and is the reason I bought the 1.4. The 2.0 petrol is completely pointless in this scenario, the extra power is meaningless in town driving and barely adds anything other than higher consumption when it goes on the motorway.

If you want something quick and exciting to drive, go buy a focus ST or something of that ilk. If you want a big car to ferry the kids about town in comfort, buy a 1.4 Kodiaq (I’d recommend the DSG) and enjoy it.
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Re: School Run Kodiaq - Diesel/Petrol

Post by Jon Edwards » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:45 pm

eLTe wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:59 pm
I’ve never found the 1.4 lacking in power, either in town or on the motorway regardless of what’s on board. Of course it isn’t going to set the world on fire but neither is the 150 diesel.

Let’s be honest here. The guy said he does mainly low mileage runs with the kids on board to / from school so assume it’s in and around town. This is exactly what we do in ours and is the reason I bought the 1.4. The 2.0 petrol is completely pointless in this scenario, the extra power is meaningless in town driving and barely adds anything other than higher consumption when it goes on the motorway.

If you want something quick and exciting to drive, go buy a focus ST or something of that ilk. If you want a big car to ferry the kids about town in comfort, buy a 1.4 Kodiaq (I’d recommend the DSG) and enjoy it.
Our school run is 20 miles each way down country roads in rural Scotland, for me the diesel wins. We also get heavy snow in the winter (up to five foot) hence why we went for a 4x4. The majority of 4x4 owners don’t need one, but that’s another story.
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Re: School Run Kodiaq - Diesel/Petrol

Post by eLTe » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:05 pm

I didn’t want or need 4x4 but unfortunately Skoda saw fit to offer the sportline as 4x4 only (in case your comment is aimed at me).

I would say your school run is far from the norm. The OP stated short distance and since most schools are in towns and cities I’ve made an assumption here, hence my summary.
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Re: School Run Kodiaq - Diesel/Petrol

Post by Sabertooth » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:20 am

I live in Glasgow and the winters can be bad at times (gets less and less as the years wear on - may be global warming).
We average 9k annually so diesel was out of the question, I am not sure if the 4x4 would be needed so i didn't opt for it as we have done so well with the present car which isnt a 4x4.
I dont have mine delivered yet but i am hoping the 1.5 (should have been a 1.4) is gutsy enough for all our needs.
I am sure it would be for me, SWMBO is the problem, she pulls so fast from traffic lights, sometimes I wonder if the limits have gone up from 20-30mph.
I guess I'd findout when WLTP allows Skoda to ship the Bear.
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Re: School Run Kodiaq - Diesel/Petrol

Post by eLTe » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:55 am

The 150 petrol will be quicker off the mark than the diesel. I’ve not looked but I’d imagine the 0-60 time for the 150 petrol is quicker than the 150 diesel? Happy to be proved wrong.

0-30 is such a short time that you’d never see any difference. Trust me, you won’t be disappointed with the petrol.
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Re: School Run Kodiaq - Diesel/Petrol

Post by Hugh Fanism » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:03 am

Jon Edwards wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:41 pm
Colin Lambert wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:22 am
You don't say where you are, but assume you in U.K.
Although the diesel scare is basically unfounded it has not precluded a dramatic drop in residuals for dervs. Even finance and PCP companies have started going away from 'oil burners' and some people have been left with a much larger final payment than they anticipated.
I have nothing against diesels per se, as I have had many, but given the current climate I would certainly not entertain one at present whatever type of driving you do. Only if towing something heavy would diesel be an option.
Petrol engine consumption is getting so much bette,r the difference considering the extra cost of the fuel does not really equate. Best I have achieved out of my 1.4 SE L DSG 7 seater is 44.7mpg. All VAG engines loosen up after about 4-5k miles and consumption then improves.
I got our diesel on a personal hire contract so no issues with residual values and also worked out cheaper than PCP. I also drove the 1.4 petrol recently and found it seriously lacking even by Kodiaq standards, very lack lustre and uninspiring. I could never recommend such a large vehicle with a 1.4 Petrol, the 2 litre is a better option if diesel is a concern although I would recommend a test drive in one to see if fits your driving style.
You surely drove the 1.4 125ps as that's world away from how I would compare mine with the 150 diesel that I test drove.

For what it's worth, if I was a teuchter that had to drive 20 miles to find civilisation I'd have a diesel as well.
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Re: School Run Kodiaq - Diesel/Petrol

Post by Colin Lambert » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:48 am

Jon Edwards wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:41 pm


I got our diesel on a personal hire contract so no issues with residual values and also worked out cheaper than PCP. I also drove the 1.4 petrol recently and found it seriously lacking even by Kodiaq standards, very lack lustre and uninspiring. I could never recommend such a large vehicle with a 1.4 Petrol, the 2 litre is a better option if diesel is a concern although I would recommend a test drive in one to see if fits your driving style.
Jon,
I think you must have driven the 125 BHP 1.4. either that or it was a duff one.
I don't remember any members here with the 1.4 150 bhp complaining about its power/speed?
The torque and ''overtakeability' of my 1.4 150 BHP DSG is more than adequate (I admit I have never had 7 peeps and a full load).
The way manufacturers always quote the 0-62 time really annoys me. It is irrelevant! What is far MORE important is the time taken during an overtake, say 40-60.
I have a friend with a BMW 430 twin turbo and he was astonished at the speed with which my 1.4 overtakes slower traffic, even from 50 or 60 mph
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Re: School Run Kodiaq - Diesel/Petrol

Post by Zach » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:42 am

Must be horses for courses Colin. I found the 1.4 adequate but certainly lacklustre compared to the 2.0 TSI and TDI 190PS.
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Re: School Run Kodiaq - Diesel/Petrol

Post by DaveM » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:54 am

Zach wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:42 am
Must be horses for courses Colin. I found the 1.4 adequate but certainly lacklustre compared to the 2.0 TSI and TDI 190PS.
Well, yes. But the discussion was the comparison of 150 1.4 and 150 diesel, and whether that diesel was more lively.

Expectations and driving styles will always be different, and for some either of those engines will not be enough. Perhaps the solid point that can be made is just that the 1.4 punches way above what you’d normally expect of a 1.4. For some, that will still not be enough. For me, it’s plenty - occasionally, I get out my treasured 1995 Benz (low mileage and in excellent order) and am always shocked at how lethargic its 2.2 litres feel, after the Kodiaq!
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