Dash Cam date reverts to factory setting

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Re: Dash Cam date reverts to factory setting

Post by Daddy2Bears » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:14 am

scratch113 wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:30 pm
Old Man wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:34 pm
As far as I am aware the time and date is always correct. It certainly always is whenever I have downloaded footage after an incident. As a retired OS surveyor I know that GPS satellite signals carry a very accurate atomic clock element and I would find it very strange if a GPS enabled dashcam did not make use of it.

And yet the Kodiaq itself can't do this despite having a GPS feed for the satnav - you have to manually set the time and date and it will not stay particularly accurate. Certainly doesn't change the time when we change the clocks, which my phone seems to be able to manage...
You can enable it, just need OBD11/VAG-COM or similar.
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Re: Dash Cam date reverts to factory setting

Post by old man » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:27 am

You can enable it, just need OBD11/VAG-COM or similar.
Why on earth isn't it enabled in the factory if the facility is there ?
Do you know if it's an easy job with an OBD11 ?

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Re: Dash Cam date reverts to factory setting

Post by Daddy2Bears » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:09 pm

old man wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:27 am
You can enable it, just need OBD11/VAG-COM or similar.
Why on earth isn't it enabled in the factory if the facility is there ?
Do you know if it's an easy job with an OBD11 ?
Pretty easy:

5f -> Adaptations -> Summertime-Automatic -> Set to 'Europe'

Don't set to Automatic, which is what I thought it should be, but isn't.

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Re: Dash Cam date reverts to factory setting

Post by old man » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:15 pm

Daddy2Bears wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:09 pm
old man wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:27 am
You can enable it, just need OBD11/VAG-COM or similar.
Why on earth isn't it enabled in the factory if the facility is there ?
Do you know if it's an easy job with an OBD11 ?
Pretty easy:

5f -> Adaptations -> Summertime-Automatic -> Set to 'Europe'

Don't set to Automatic, which is what I thought it should be, but isn't.

https://www.stuartdalby.co.uk/vwgolfmk7 ... summertime
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Re: Dash Cam date reverts to factory setting

Post by iwarv » Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:33 pm

scratch113 wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:30 pm
And yet the Kodiaq itself can't do this despite having a GPS feed for the satnav - you have to manually set the time and date and it will not stay particularly accurate. Certainly doesn't change the time when we change the clocks, which my phone seems to be able to manage...
No, my experience is also that it does not automatically enable/disable DST.
That is because (local) governments across this globe can sometimes change DST at a moment's notice.
It's a massive database to keep onboard to work out who in what corner of this world switches when.

It is a programmer's nightmare to successfully deal with DST and timezones. Just watch this video if you want a take the red pill and go down the rabbit hole.

Making the driver do this manually is by far the easier and more reliable option.
Your phone has the benefit of getting regular updates and with a data SIM it is also able to contact HQ.
One day your car will be the same, but we're not there yet.

But other than enabling/disabling DST twice a year and changing the timezone to CET when driving abroad, I find that the onboard time never drifts, suggesting to me that the car is periodically or constantly keeping in lockstep with the UTC time broadcast from the GPS satellites.

I'd have to look, but perhaps there is an option in the settings menu that needs to be ticked or unticked?
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Re: Dash Cam date reverts to factory setting

Post by old man » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:07 pm

Probably a stupid question, but does not ticking the box beside SUMMER DST in the infotainment screen tell the clock to change the time automatically ?
I can find no reference to it in either of the manuals.
Frankly, apart from going to France, I can't remember changing the time setting for summer and winter since I've had the car, but that might just mean that I've forgotten :?

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Re: Dash Cam date reverts to factory setting

Post by iwarv » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:28 pm

Ticking the box adds daylight saving / takes us to BST, so tick that box in March.
In October, untick it to go back to GMT.
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Re: Dash Cam date reverts to factory setting

Post by old man » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:55 pm

iwarv wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:28 pm
Ticking the box adds daylight saving / takes us to BST, so tick that box in March.
In October, untick it to go back to GMT.
Thankyou, I'd just tried that before your reply and it increased the time by an hour :)

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Re: Dash Cam date reverts to factory setting

Post by iwarv » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:52 pm

old man wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:55 pm
Thankyou, I'd just tried that before your reply and it increased the time by an hour :)
I am overstating the bleeding obvious here, but daylight saving (DST) should be on for those in the UK.
If your clock increased by an hour as you say it did then:
  1. if the time was correct after enabling DST, then it must have been an hour behind before you enabled DST, or
  2. if the time was ahead by an hour after you enabled DST, then you have your car set to an incorrect timezone OR you have manually set the time.
In you have manually set the time on your car then you will have broken the lockstep with the GPS satellites and you *may* find that the clock drifts over time.
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Re: Dash Cam date reverts to factory setting

Post by old man » Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:48 am

DST box unticked now and time is back to normal. I do have the correct time zone dialled in.
I'm gonna leave it alone now and see what happens when the clocks go back. :o

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