To Supagard or not to Supagard?

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To Supagard or not to Supagard?

Post by ChrisL » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:52 pm

Hi all,

About to order a replacement Kodiaq.

The dealer are pushing me to get it treated with Supagard as was done with the current car.

I know some people on here have said Supagard isn't very good.

What is the current preferred equivalent treatment?

Thanks in advance!

Chris.
Being replaced: Petrol Blue 2.0TDi 190ps DSG 7 seat Edition with black leather, front/rear parking sensors, heated front windscreen/washer jets, ventilated seats, adaptive cruise, traffic sign recognition, driver personalisation and rear view cam.

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Re: To Supagard or not to Supagard?

Post by SinglePointSafety » Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:05 pm

If you want any paint/interior etc protection, don't let a dealer do it: it's usually a job entrusted to someone with little experience and is likely to be done badly (and sometimes not at all). And the dealership markup is brutal. Before anyone starts howling with rage.... a colleague's son is a car salesperson in the Midlands and we get to hear what really goes on in many dealerships (apologies if you work in or run one, and are competent and honest, but, well, think hard why the motor trade has got such a bad reputation.....). The dealership might even tell you that they get a pro detailer in - and indeed, who knows, they might. Or not.

No, by far the best bet is to go and see a professional detailer or few: go by their recommendations, and note the prices. You will generally find as many opinions as there are products - but I know that Autoglym Lifeshine is generally well-regarded and indeed so is SupaGard. There are of course myriads of YouTube vids and forums on this subject, if you really want to do in-depth research.
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Re: To Supagard or not to Supagard?

Post by scratch113 » Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:27 pm

SinglePointSafety wrote:
Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:05 pm
If you want any paint/interior etc protection, don't let a dealer do it: it's usually a job entrusted to someone with little experience and is likely to be done badly (and sometimes not at all). And the dealership markup is brutal. Before anyone starts howling with rage.... a colleague's son is a car salesperson in the Midlands and we get to hear what really goes on in many dealerships (apologies if you work in or run one, and are competent and honest, but, well, think hard why the motor trade has got such a bad reputation.....). The dealership might even tell you that they get a pro detailer in - and indeed, who knows, they might. Or not.

No, by far the best bet is to go and see a professional detailer or few: go by their recommendations, and note the prices. You will generally find as many opinions as there are products - but I know that Autoglym Lifeshine is generally well-regarded and indeed so is SupaGard. There are of course myriads of YouTube vids and forums on this subject, if you really want to do in-depth research.
Absolutely top advice above - Supagard isn't the best product IMHO and given that you can get the same kits that the dealers use for £20-30 and then they have the cheek to charge £400+ to apply it, it's just not worth it. You could do a better job yourself, even if you don't know what you're doing.

As SinglePointSafety says, for best results, save the money of whatever it is that the dealer was going to charge you and take it to a proper detailer. If you get them to apply a decent ceramic sealant, it might cost a little more, but it will protect the paint far better and also last much, much longer.

For ultimate protection, find someone who can apply GTechniq Crystal Serum Ultra - it's not available to the general public as it requires specialist training to apply properly, but once done it comes with a 9 year paint warranty - that's how confident in their product they are. Not cheap on a car the size of a Kodiaq - you're probably looking at £750 or so and that's before you've added interior, glass or wheel protection products that they will try to sell as add-ons. You could easily spend £1000+ if you went the whole hog, but at least you'd then know that your pride and joy had the best possible protection.

https://www.gtechniq.co.uk/crystal-serum-ultra/

Hope that helps.
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Re: To Supagard or not to Supagard?

Post by Colin Lambert » Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:05 pm

I had Superguard on my Mercedes and it was a complete waste of money. Bird sh*t still stuck to the paintwork and water went straight into the upholstery.
The reason they push so hard for this and other extras such as GAP insurance, is that the get a bigger commission for the extras than they do for selling the car!
DON'T waste your money on ANY treatments of this type!
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Re: To Supagard or not to Supagard?

Post by scratch113 » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:48 pm

I do however have the Autoglym Lifeshine on my car, applied by the dealer as a deal sweetener, so in effect I didn't pay for it.

My opinion wasn't great when I agreed to having it done, but figured even if it only lasted 6 months, it was worth it for the deal I was getting at the time.

Hard to say how well it has done as I've since started using the Autoglym Polar range and the Polar Seal in particular is amazing stuff. Even some 10 weeks since I last washed my car, when it rains, the water beads like crazy and it's a joy to wash as the dirt just runs away with the foam wash from the Polar Blast. I've had a few bird muck droppings on my car with no ill effect on the paint finish, which I put down primarily to the Polar Seal rather than the Lifeshine that was applied 2+1/2 years ago.
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Re: To Supagard or not to Supagard?

Post by Kenny R » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:33 pm

I too had the AG lifeshine done as part of the deal when I purchased my current Kodiaq, and recon it might have helped with the generous part exchange offered recently as the car is genuinely immaculate inside and out and proved to be grandchildren proof :)
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Re: To Supagard or not to Supagard?

Post by Damson2GiN » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:07 pm

My 190 DSG Edition is Black, without doubt it make a big difference. I have owned my Kodiaq 3 years, I use the usual car wash & wax, It comes up gleaming every time.I had a MG rover 75, 134 cdti, black, said i wouldnt get another black car,The Kodiaq was the only model & colour they had at the time, so no choice but to buy it, No complaints.as yet?

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Re: To Supagard or not to Supagard?

Post by AlanaH » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:33 am

as said empty pockets pro full car works ceramic coated job done, you will need to wash it with friendly products and also some require revisits but some dont.

I applied Cquartz to my current car with heat lamps in the garage which has served me well
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Re: To Supagard or not to Supagard?

Post by Damson2GiN » Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:35 pm

All the cars i have owned, tried to look after them, cleaned polished regularly, if it looks good, usualy they are good because of the owner.I have found that Supagard, who ever applies it, saves a lot of polishing, there are more important things in life, than polishing a car. Just a personal choice, i wish they had it years ago.

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Re: To Supagard or not to Supagard?

Post by ChrisL » Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:08 pm

Ok thanks for the advice guys.

I'll order the vehicle minus supagard on Saturday :)
Being replaced: Petrol Blue 2.0TDi 190ps DSG 7 seat Edition with black leather, front/rear parking sensors, heated front windscreen/washer jets, ventilated seats, adaptive cruise, traffic sign recognition, driver personalisation and rear view cam.

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