Model Year 21 Changes

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Zach
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Model Year 21 Changes

Post by Zach » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:05 am

Just received news about the upcoming model year change. I have no proper confirmation, however down the grapevine, people who work for Skoda in some markets have divulged some information:
  • 190PS/140kW TDI new replaced with 200PS/147kW TDI engine
  • New 180kW TSI engine available (I kinda doubt this, however this comes from a rep for Skoda Germany)
  • New steering wheel from Octavia with capacitive hand detection
  • MIB 3 infotainment, which entails the following:
    • USB C replaces USB A
    • No more DVD/CD slot, SD slots
    • Online functionality via eSIM (built in)
    • Wireless App-Connect
  • KESSY sensors for all 4 doors
  • Ventilation and seat depth adjustment available for RS/Sportline
  • Sleep Package temporarily removed (due to supply constraints)
  • ACC now up to 200kph instead of 160/210
With facelift coming out next year, I think I'm going to wait for it before considering upgrading.
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Re: Model Year 21 Changes

Post by Deleted User 2278 » Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:32 am

Nothing much of practical interest there for me. What is "capacitive hand detection"? Sounds like an annoying beep if you take one hand off the wheel. I wonder if it works with gloves, my touch screens and my mouse pad don't.

I am interested in model year 2029, my Kodiaq's planned replacement year!

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Re: Model Year 21 Changes

Post by scratch113 » Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:35 pm

Not that I'm planning to change my car anytime soon as I'm only 17 months into the 4 year PCP deal on my car, but I'm mostly disappointed that there's no PHEV version, especially given that the Superb IV has been out for a while now, so Skoda has the tech and the Kodiaq can't be lacking in space for it...
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Re: Model Year 21 Changes

Post by FoxtrotAlpha » Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:51 pm

Silverbear wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:32 am
Nothing much of practical interest there for me. What is "capacitive hand detection"? Sounds like an annoying beep if you take one hand off the wheel. I wonder if it works with gloves, my touch screens and my mouse pad don't.

I am interested in model year 2029, my Kodiaq's planned replacement year!
From what I understand this is part of VAG taking their cars to the next level to automation (level 2). It introduces the Travel Assist system which replaces its predecessor Traffic Jam Assist and lane detection.

Presently if there car receives no feedback from the driver (small movements of the steering wheel) visual, physical and audible warnings are given, capacitive hand detection (Hands off detection) is just a different way of detecting if the driver is holding the wheel.

I hope that Traffic Assist will use both capacitive and physical feedback from the driver to compensate for the more senior glove wearing drivers as it am led to believe the absence of feedback will result in the Emergency Assist system being activated which includes automatic emergency braking.
It's a 'Kodiaq' and not a 'Bear' unless you are 5 years old.
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Re: Model Year 21 Changes

Post by Deleted User 2278 » Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:45 pm

FoxtrotAlpha wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:51 pm
Silverbear wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:32 am
Nothing much of practical interest there for me. What is "capacitive hand detection"? Sounds like an annoying beep if you take one hand off the wheel. I wonder if it works with gloves, my touch screens and my mouse pad don't.

I am interested in model year 2029, my Kodiaq's planned replacement year!
From what I understand this is part of VAG taking their cars to the next level to automation (level 2). It introduces the Travel Assist system which replaces its predecessor Traffic Jam Assist and lane detection.

Presently if there car receives no feedback from the driver (small movements of the steering wheel) visual, physical and audible warnings are given, capacitive hand detection (Hands off detection) is just a different way of detecting if the driver is holding the wheel.

I hope that Traffic Assist will use both capacitive and physical feedback from the driver to compensate for the more senior glove wearing drivers as it am led to believe the absence of feedback will result in the Emergency Assist system being activated which includes automatic emergency braking.
I have experience of autonomous emergency braking when I don't brake the way the car thinks is best and it is a nerve racking experience. The hump backed bridge that the car thought merited an emergency stop, the walled hairpin bend, the oncoming motorist who expertly overtook a cyclist before neatly tucking in causing my car to needlessly suddenly brake hard, and a variety of other normal everday occurances that I did not provide the expected input for and so caused emergency braking. I am in no hurry to experience more 'help'.

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Re: Model Year 21 Changes

Post by Colin Lambert » Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:26 pm

Roadside 'furniture' on left hand bends are my 'favourite'!!!
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Re: Model Year 21 Changes

Post by Deleted User 2278 » Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:46 pm

My car was rear ended a few months ago by a car as we were stopped at a junction. At the bodyshop we used to replace the bumper was a written off Golf, rear all smashed in. It had done an emerency stop on a clear motorway according to the chap at the bodyshop and the following car had piled into the back. He said it was "with the lawyers" working out who was at fault and data from the car had apparently been sent to Germany. Now I don't know what the actual circumstances were and I don't know how it turned out but my car has done some hair raising braking of its own accord and each time I wonder who would be deamed at fault if the car behind went into me because stopping fast for no reason is driving without due care and attention.

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Re: Model Year 21 Changes

Post by Old and Grumpy » Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:50 am

I experienced this once or twice when the car was new, (roadside furniture on the left to blame), but once I had tweaked the sensitivity through Infotainment it's never happened again in the two years I've had the car.
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Re: Model Year 21 Changes

Post by Deleted User 2278 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:22 am

So are you saying there is a setting in your car, possibly even a default setting, that will automatically apply the brakes incorrectly?

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Re: Model Year 21 Changes

Post by Old and Grumpy » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:41 am

Silverbear wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:22 am
So are you saying there is a setting in your car, possibly even a default setting, that will automatically apply the brakes incorrectly?
There is a setting for the sensitivity of the "Emergency Braking" system. When I got the car it was set to "High". I set it to "Medium" and it cured the problem.

From the digital manual;

Settings in Infotainment
Read and observe and on page 251 first.
› In the infotainment system, in menu "CAR" and "SETTINGS" tap on function surface "Driver
Assistance".
■ Front Assist (ambient traffic monitor. sys.) - Set the assistant for distance
monitoring to the vehicles ahead
■ Active - Activate/deactivate the assistant
■ Advance warning (Version 1) - Activate/deactivate advance warning
■ Advance warning (Version 2) - Activating/deactivating and setting the distance
level at which a warning occurs
■ Display distance warning - Activate/deactivate distance warnings
Operation
Read and observe and on page 251 first.
The system support is provided in the following manner.
▶ Alerts you about a dangerous proximity to the vehicle ahead.
▶ Warns you of an impending collision.
▶ Assists with a brake action triggered by the driver.
▶ If the driver fails to respond to a detected danger, an automatic braking action
is performed.
The system can work only if the following basic conditions are met.
The system is activated.
TCS is activated » page 220.
The vehicle is travelling forwards at a speed of more than approx. 5 km/h.
Note
The system can be impaired or may not be available, for example when driving
in “sharp ”curves or with an ESC engagement » page 219.
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