18 months on.......

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Rob M
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18 months on.......

Post by Rob M » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:16 pm

So, as I do not post much on here, I thought I would make this one about how things have gone in the 18 odd months since I took delivery of my SEL.
Honestly? It is a very good car.
I suppose I was bound to say that because it is a car that does nothing badly, some things very well and the rest ok, if you get my drift.
The only problems I have really experienced has been down to voice activating the radio/cd etc where, no matter how clearly I announce my requirement, it gets it wrong at least 50% of the time.
I end up shouting at it. It does not help.
The boot opening on its own issue, yes, I had that and it is a flaw of the key fob, a really poor show for an expensive car but, hey ho.
My real gripe is with the servicing schedules. I had barely covered 4000 miles when I was informed that its yearly service was due.
That time I allowed them to lighten my wallet, I am going elsewhere ( an independent specialist ) for this years one when the car is due, even though it will probably not have covered 10000 miles.
My Octavia was a 2 year or 12K schedule so, excuse me If I think Skoda are pulling the p*ss a tad.
....and before anybody ventures the ' the car does not do enough miles/driven enough blah blah spiel, my car is driven hard. I do not hang about and, I assure you, the oil works for a living.
I do think that the Kodiaq brand has been devalued somewhat by the introduction of the Karoq. The Karoq is pretty much a twin, albeit a smaller twin of the Kodiaq and, honestly, it is not THAT easy to tell the difference when they are on the road.
It does beg the question regarding the point of buying the bigger car if 7 seats and the associated space is not essential.
The other thing, for me anyway, is that it is a clone, the Karoq that is, where is its own individuality?
Having said that, I am not knocking the Karoq, it is, for me, a better bet than a Kodiaq, it is just that two similar models from one manufacturer are going, pretty much, head to head and counteracting each other. Stupid IMHO.
The Yeti, conversely, was totally distinct but now we are going down the road of everything within the range looking like everything else.
I suppose I should not crib too much, modern cars are bought to be used, my real enjoyment in motoring comes from my love of classic cars and the car that is my antidote to the Kodiaq, my Firebird. Chalk and cheese in a fabulous way.
Would I buy one again?
No.
I would not even buy a Skoda again TBH. I think they have lost perspective and the ability to put the customer first.
It is not the company I once admired and championed, It has become just another manufacturer who forgets that its success is dependent on its loyal and RETURNING customer base.
This is the third Skoda ( new) that I have purchased, it is the last one too.
I am actually considering the bangernomics route to car ownership, well, until legislation dictates other wise.
Some good cars out there that will do all what my Kodiaq can do and not cost a kidney to pay for.
Sure, I can afford to pay for the spangly new Kodiaq but, then again, I can spend the difference on other things, I worked out that I could save thousands a year, even if I scrapped a car every 12 months and bought another.
Sometimes common sense must prevail. :D
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1988 Pontiac Firebird 5.0V8 TBI in Red
1991 Lotus Excel 'Hethel Celebration'


Old and Grumpy
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Re: 18 months on.......

Post by Old and Grumpy » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:27 pm

Rob M wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:16 pm

My real gripe is with the servicing schedules. I had barely covered 4000 miles when I was informed that its yearly service was due.
That time I allowed them to lighten my wallet, I am going elsewhere ( an independent specialist ) for this years one when the car is due, even though it will probably not have covered 10000 miles.
My Octavia was a 2 year or 12K schedule so, excuse me If I think Skoda are pulling the p*ss a tad.
....and before anybody ventures the ' the car does not do enough miles/driven enough blah blah spiel, my car is driven hard. I do not hang about and, I assure you, the oil works for a living.
Maybe that is why your Kodiaq will need two oil changes with less than 10,000 miles on the clock!
Kodiaq SE 1.4 TSI, 2WD, manual, 5 seater, Petrol blue, absolutely standard, no extra toys. Leicestershire.
My best car in 55 years of driving, including my previous Superb, two Octavias and a Fabia :)


tricky
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Re: 18 months on.......

Post by tricky » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:57 pm

problem is it sounds like your supplying dealer put you on fixed interval servicing (so every 12 months regardless of mileage) as opposed to variable which can be upto every 2 years. Skoda set it to variable from the factory so the dealerships has probably changed it before they handed it over. Its one of the reasons I was very careful to confirm that mine had been left on variable service intervals.

Might be worth checking to see if they can switch it to variable at this point especially if that's the main gripe you have with the car. Wonder how many other people have been stitched up by their dealer switching to fixed intervals before delivery?
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scratch113
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Re: 18 months on.......

Post by scratch113 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:25 am

I'm pretty sure my car is on the fixed service - I've only done 2600 miles since I picked it up on 19th Jan, so nowhere near needing a service yet and hoping it's not too late to switch back to the variable service. Must take it in to Skoda at some point. My Skoda Connect App tells me that an oil service is due in 6700 miles/281 days, so I'm sure that's not the variable service schedule.
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MrTrilby
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Re: 18 months on.......

Post by MrTrilby » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:43 am

If you’re only doing occasional short journeys, that’s quite hard on the oil as it never gets properly warmed through, so it might be better for you to be on the fixed service.
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LordJellybelly
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Re: 18 months on.......

Post by LordJellybelly » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:37 pm

Since purchase new last June I have done about 2.5K miles. CONNECT indicates Oil service 6800 mi/54 days Do those who know better than I consider that the car is on a fixed schedule. If so it seems unnecessary.
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Aardvark
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Re: 18 months on.......

Post by Aardvark » Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:42 pm

All noted on the Karoq and now the Kamiq too, though it does have a more distinctive front, whether it would damage the residuals, I don’t know. I suppose a big draw for the Kodiaq is the 7 seats.

Bangernomics is of course a route to go. I know a few colleagues who run really old cars ( one is a Nissan Primera petrol) with well over 200k miles on them, and they just require regular service / repair. They don’t worry where they park them or if they get knocked around. Big maintenance bill - get rid. Of course the trade off is you need to weigh that up against the fact it isn’t the latest and greatest and also that it may break down and leave you without transport at short notice, though cars are generally more reliable now (I think) and new cars break down too. They normally have another newer car they can fall back on.

Service wise my 2.0 TSI is 3 weeks old and has 1000 miles on it and is showing 17700 miles or 644 days to service so definitely on the variable service as supplied. Seems a long time for the oil and I’m tempted to get an intermediate oil change done at 9k miles.

I’d like a plug in hybrid in future, but at the moment there’s not enough model availability, they cost too much and the electric range is too limited to be useful. Diesel is now demon, and I suppose the government or cities will move to progressively exclude or tax it out of existence. Good luck with whatever you choose.
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FoxtrotAlpha
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Re: 18 months on.......

Post by FoxtrotAlpha » Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:30 pm

LordJellybelly wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:37 pm
Since purchase new last June I have done about 2.5K miles. CONNECT indicates Oil service 6800 mi/54 days Do those who know better than I consider that the car is on a fixed schedule. If so it seems unnecessary.
With such low mileage and the chances are you are doing many short journeys compared to some of us I wouldn’t worry. Fixed servicing I believe is at 10,000 miles or 12 months which ever comes first. In your case it’s 12 months so the variable service period isn’t an issue.

I could be wrong.
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Rob M
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Re: 18 months on.......

Post by Rob M » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:02 pm

Old and Grumpy wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:27 pm
Rob M wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:16 pm

My real gripe is with the servicing schedules. I had barely covered 4000 miles when I was informed that its yearly service was due.
That time I allowed them to lighten my wallet, I am going elsewhere ( an independent specialist ) for this years one when the car is due, even though it will probably not have covered 10000 miles.
My Octavia was a 2 year or 12K schedule so, excuse me If I think Skoda are pulling the p*ss a tad.
....and before anybody ventures the ' the car does not do enough miles/driven enough blah blah spiel, my car is driven hard. I do not hang about and, I assure you, the oil works for a living.
Maybe that is why your Kodiaq will need two oil changes with less than 10,000 miles on the clock!
You miss the point somewhat.
Modern engines and oils are tested to destruction, a two year/12,000 mile service schedule is hardly unique to the VW family of engines and, as the 1.4 is based on the 1.2....
Even Lewis Hamilton would not wear the oil out over 12,000 miles of mixed driving and, to be fair to me, my shorter than average journeys are still accomplished with a fully warmed up engine and some motor way speeds so less than 10,000 miles on the clock means absolutely nothing at all.
The fact that I am happy to work the gears and get the rev counter spinning is what modern cars are designed for.
Previously, on all new cars I have purchased, I am on my 11th since the year 2000, I have been made aware of the servicing schedules because the supplying dealer has told me what they were.
It was remiss of me not to ask Walkers of Kings Lynn what the schedule was on the Kodiaq, I should have asked but assumed, which is dangerous when buying a car.
Thanks for all the replies, it's good to get some input and opinion on the subject :D
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Re: 18 months on.......

Post by Colin Lambert » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:34 am

RobM said
I would not even buy a Skoda again TBH. I think they have lost perspective and the ability to put the customer first.
It is not the company I once admired and championed, It has become just another manufacturer who forgets that its success is dependent on its loyal and RETURNING customer base.
This is the third Skoda ( new) that I have purchased, it is the last one too.
I am actually considering the bangernomics route to car ownership, well, until legislation dictates other wise.
Some good cars out there that will do all what my Kodiaq can do and not cost a kidney to pay for.
Sure, I can afford to pay for the spangly new Kodiaq but, then again, I can spend the difference on other things, I worked out that I could save thousands a year, even if I scrapped a car every 12 months and bought another.
Sometimes common sense must prevail. :D


I am on my 6th Skoda and I am rapidly coming to the similar conclusion as Rob.
No so much the 'don't care' attitude, as they have always treated me well and my dealer (Meadens of Brockenhurst, Hants) are superb, although reading some of the tales of woeful treatment by SUK on this forum does rather dismay me.
However, although at the time I felt the Kodiaq was the best car I had ever owned out of the 75 that I have, in spite of the niggles and gremlins, I feel that their reliability is worse than it was in my days of 3X Yeti and 1X Fabia estate.
However II...... My Karoq has had no niggles whatsoever......fingers crossed. The only adverse comment for Karoq (& Kodiaq) is the 'Kangarooring' of the 1.5 TSi mainly manual version. Very few DSGs if any seem to be affected.
How the hell a company the size of VAG can launch a new engine with a serious fault like this and then take 6 months to come up with a promise of a solution, which to my knowledge has not yet appeared, absolutely beggars belief. If any Japanese manufacturers did this (which of course they would NOT) the Japanese countryside would be littered with the dead bodies of those whose fault it was, as they all committed hara kiri.
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