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Old and Grumpy
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Re: Moving to Skoda!

Post by Old and Grumpy » Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:45 pm

DrMatt wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:34 pm
Old and Grumpy wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:54 am
Has anyone any experience of using Michelin Cross Climate tyres with 2WD Kodiaqs?
Yep,

Just collected my Kodiaq in December and it has now done 1000 miles. As previously reported on this forum, I had the tyres swapped before collection and had CrossClimates fitted. they have always been brilliant on my wife's MPV and although I have always run Conti winters and swapped back to summer rubber when I was running a fast hatch, I thought I would take the plunge and save a LOT of space...the Kodiaq 19" wheels with tyres fitted are huge.

Since collection, the weather has been consistently below or near to 7 degrees and I have been really impressed with performance and grip, as well as comfort and noise. Today I drove in snow for the first time and was seriously impressed. This next comment sounds contrived but is absolutely true...

My neighbour has a 4x4 and was slithering around in our shared turnaround today which is on a slope. He eventually managed to reverse back into his driveway. I thought I was going to struggle in my 2wd but cautiously tried to reverse off the ice and snow in the turnaround... after a minor wheel spin, I just reversed back with no issues at all...!!

I hope this helps. CrossClimates have been nothing but good for us as a family. Continental has now brought out a competitor but it's not yet available on 19's. I did not choose 4x4 because, as previous posts have alluded to, the tyres are more important and I only drive on roads, and the snow is only for a few days a year. And I actually value fuel consumption and retail price over a badge.

I have no issue with why someone who needs 4wd would buy a REAL 4x4, but really, this car is so good in 2wd, why bother? If you are a farmer, buy a Landrover...

Rant over. Final word...Just do it, I don't regret leaving Audi at all.
Thank you. You have confirmed what I hoped would be the case. My Pirellis will be replaced with Michelin Cross Climates.
Kodiaq SE 1.4 TSI, 2WD, manual, 5 seater, Petrol blue, absolutely standard, no extra toys. Melton Mowbray.
My best car in 55 years of driving, including my previous Superb, two Octavias and a Fabia :)


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FoxtrotAlpha
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Re: Moving to Skoda!

Post by FoxtrotAlpha » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:29 pm

It is debatable if FWD and winter tyres are better that AWD all season tyres, I would say the are comparable not better (tread depth is important of course). We live in a very rural part of Scotland at high altitude and the all season tyres we have managed extremely well considering we have up to 5 foot of snow. If you live in Southern England where you have 1cm of snow and everyone has a meltdown then FWD should be OK.

Changing ours for winter tyres would have been an option but we are limited contractually on what we can fit apart from which we only have a few days a year when the roads are to dangerous to drive - so we don’t. As the Winter tyres cost about £180 per corner when I last looked it wasn’t worth it for a few days a year.

Adapting your driving style to the conditions is also important.
It's a 'Kodiaq' and not a 'Bear' unless you are 5 years old.
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Kenny R
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Re: Moving to Skoda!

Post by Kenny R » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:43 pm

FoxtrotAlpha wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:29 pm
It is debatable if FWD and winter tyres are better that AWD all season tyres, I would say the are comparable not better (tread depth is important of course). We live in a very rural part of Scotland at high altitude and the all season tyres we have managed extremely well considering we have up to 5 foot of snow.
What make and size of all season tyres have you fitted?
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And for the winter months: 17” Black alloys with 215x65x17 Nokian WR SUV3 winter tyres.


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FoxtrotAlpha
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Re: Moving to Skoda!

Post by FoxtrotAlpha » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:20 pm

Kenny R wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:43 pm
FoxtrotAlpha wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:29 pm
It is debatable if FWD and winter tyres are better that AWD all season tyres, I would say the are comparable not better (tread depth is important of course). We live in a very rural part of Scotland at high altitude and the all season tyres we have managed extremely well considering we have up to 5 foot of snow.
What make and size of all season tyres have you fitted?
Standard supplied Ventus S1 Evo2 which are technically summer tyres but still manage snow with good tread depth. My Kodiaq goes back soon and I may consider winter tyres next year but I don’t feel like adding them onto a car at this stage when it’s replacement will have bigger tyres - I don’t bother changing rims and tyres over winter.

My PHC states I need to use premium tyres (Continental Pirelli Goodyear etc. or the ones supplied (Hankook in my case)) so dedicated winter tyres can be expensive if I did all four.

For the sake of a few days a year it’s not worth my time, effort and expense using them. That said I work from home so if it’s snowing it makes no real difference to my work.
It's a 'Kodiaq' and not a 'Bear' unless you are 5 years old.
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TCC
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Re: Moving to Skoda!

Post by TCC » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:30 pm

I have run AWD car for years (Audi Quattro, BMW Xdrive, Porsche 4 x 4 and Skoda 4 x 4 systems). On the daily car I would not consider anything less now and I run winter wheels on these cars too for the extra grip in cornering and braking). Once you understand the difference AWD and winter tyres offer it’s hard to move away from. This weekend showed again why I do it, I have been driving around with no issues (just the odd forced four wheel drift for fun) compared to my brother who in his rear wheel drive BMW found his journey was touch and go (and he does not scare easily). With my young family I don’t want to be stranded and therefore take comfort in having a car that allows me to keep going and drop wheels of the road into mud etc without issue.

As for the title, I moved to Skoda with our first Yeti 7 years ago and have enjoyed the experience throughout. The engineering standards Skoda has to meet are generally in line with the rest of the VAG group (Audi, VW, SEAT) and that means the things you expect to work, work and are often carry-over or carry-modified, so engines, gearboxes, suspension components etc are the same or very close in design with built in differentiation, I prefer the new Skoda styling to VW and prefer the value of the cars compared to Audi (I currently also drive an Audi).
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Audievo
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Re: Moving to Skoda!

Post by Audievo » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:11 pm

Yeah i keep asking myself why i need a 4wd. I have one hill where i live which is terrible when it snows. It is very steep and most cars struggle (and fail) to get up.
It is however only a few days a year so i'm wondering if i should just buy the 2wd and take a chance on cross climates helping me out when i need it.
On the other hand i think i'd be very red faced if i was sitting in a car that looks, well, the way a kodiaq looks and get stuck in the snow.


old man
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Re: Moving to Skoda!

Post by old man » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:18 pm

With 2 WD, let a few pounds of air out of your tyres to get up the hill, you'll get more traction that way.
Just be sure to put it back in ASAP.


Paulb8man
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Re: Moving to Skoda!

Post by Paulb8man » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:11 pm

Collected my new Kodiaq a week ago. We’ve had a Yeti for two and a half years that has been perfect and we love it so much that we’re going to keep it for another three at least. Kodiaq is SE L Business Grey with virtual cockpit. Had park assist on the Yeti but in real life you never use it. As it’s February had Michelin Cross Climates fitted on delivery and they feel excellent. We have Goodyear 4 seasons on the Yeti which we get changed for summer tyres in March. They’re very good too; surprisingly good in snow for all season tyres and more than adequate for UK winters not too far north. I think the Michelin’s will also be fine for us but will change back to original Pirellis in March. Impossible to find 19” steel wheels so we get our local garage to change the tyres - at £80 a go! New Kodiaq drives beautifully and has so many excellent qualities plus acres of space!Image


Audievo
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Re: Moving to Skoda!

Post by Audievo » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:39 pm

Sounds good. I'm still undecided. Do love the business grey.............. and white.............and black.................and the red velvet looks nice too!!! I use Michelin agilis alpin (winter) on my current vehicle. Buy from costco and they swap them back for £32!!! I think £80 is a bit steep. Now favoring a petrol but still not sure how much i need a 4x4.........or dsg.....


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