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scratch113
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Just joined - coming from Land Rover

Post by scratch113 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:33 pm

Hi,

I've had my Kodiaq for just under a week now and thus far, I'm loving it! I've come from a 2016 Land Rover Discovery Sport HSE Luxury and thus far, the Skoda is far, far more practical and apart from the odd bit of plastic trim and the interior door handles not being leather, it's not far short of the luxurious feel of my previous car. Seats are great and the infotainment is a league ahead of the Land Rover system. I would say that the Meridian sound system in the Land Rover was probably a little better than the Canton equivalent in the Skoda, but it's really splitting hairs to notice a difference.

I had intended to order a 150 version of the Sportline with selected options to keep the list price under £40k, but having been told that it would be around 13-15 weeks for delivery, when it came down to it was told it could actually be nearer to 6 months. As the PCP on my Land Rover Discovery Sport was due to end in very early May, I ended up buying the unreistered car the Skoda dealer I visited had in their showroom.

It's got loads of options, which clearly blows the £40k limit I'd set myself to keep under, but then in the grand scheme of things, it's only money and you can't take it with you (as I keep telling my good wife!!!)

Details of the car I've bought:

Skoda Kodiaq 2.0 TDI 190 Sportline 7 seat SCR DSG 4x4 in Meteor Grey with the following options (already fitted, so no choice!):
Rough Road Package
Front and Rear Parking Sensors
Personalisation of Drive Mode Select
Driver Alert and Fatigue Sensor
Electrically Adjustable Front Seats with Lumbar Support and Memory
Dynamic Chassis Control
Panoramic Sunroof
Tri-Zone Climate Control
Temporary Steel Space Saver Spare Wheel
Electrically Folding Tow Bar and Adaptor
Electrically Operated Boot and Virtual Pedal
Heated Windscreen and Heated Washer Nozzles
Adaptive Cruise Control
Traffic Sign Recognition
High Beam Assist
Rear View Camera with LED Rear Lights
CANTON Sound System

Here's a picture of it in the showroom on the day I decided to buy it (no number plate as it was unregistered, 12 miles on the clock):

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New car: Kodiaq Sportline 2.0TDI 190 4x4 DSG
Previous:
2016 LR Disco Sport HSE Lux
2008 Audi A5 3.0TDI
2003 Audi S4 4.2 V8
1998 Audi A4 2.8 quattro
1995 Audi A4 1.8T Sport
1992 VW Golf Mk3 1.9 TD
1990 Ford Escort Mk5 1.6 LX
1983 Vauxhall Astra Mk1 1.3 S


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Colin Lambert
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Re: Just joined - coming from Land Rover

Post by Colin Lambert » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:04 pm

Welcome to the forum. Good choice!
Judging by other comments on the forum you have made a wise move leaving the LR camp!!
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FoxtrotAlpha
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Re: Just joined - coming from Land Rover

Post by FoxtrotAlpha » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:09 pm

That’s one highly spec’d Kodiaq. Its essentially a vRS without the badges (except engine and a few trivial things) forr allot less.

I’m in the process of either renewing my Kodiaq or moving elsewhere, so far I cannot see any reason not to renew. LandRover doesn’t offer me anything near the same value for money or reliability. The fact that you seem to have moved to Skoda helps with my decision process. Thanks fir the post.
It's a 'Kodiaq' and not a 'Bear' unless you are 5 years old.
Kodiaq Edition - 150 TDI - DSG 4 x 4 - Quartz Grey - Canton
Sportline on order with Virtual Cockpit.


scratch113
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Re: Just joined - coming from Land Rover

Post by scratch113 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:21 pm

Colin Lambert wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:04 pm
Welcome to the forum. Good choice!
Judging by other comments on the forum you have made a wise move leaving the LR camp!!
Thanks,

Yes, I won't miss some of the "joys" of being a Land Rover owner! Nothing major (thankfully) in the 32 months I owned mine, but plenty of visits to the dealer for lots of little things going wrong. The pitiful size of the fuel tank (45 litres) got quite tiresome by the end as well...

Overall the Disco Sport was a very comfortable car to drive, but just too many things not right with it. As you can see from my signature, it's a welcome return to the VAG fold!
New car: Kodiaq Sportline 2.0TDI 190 4x4 DSG
Previous:
2016 LR Disco Sport HSE Lux
2008 Audi A5 3.0TDI
2003 Audi S4 4.2 V8
1998 Audi A4 2.8 quattro
1995 Audi A4 1.8T Sport
1992 VW Golf Mk3 1.9 TD
1990 Ford Escort Mk5 1.6 LX
1983 Vauxhall Astra Mk1 1.3 S


scratch113
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Re: Just joined - coming from Land Rover

Post by scratch113 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:26 pm

FoxtrotAlpha wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:09 pm
That’s one highly spec’d Kodiaq. Its essentially a vRS without the badges (except engine and a few trivial things) forr allot less.

I’m in the process of either renewing my Kodiaq or moving elsewhere, so far I cannot see any reason not to renew. LandRover doesn’t offer me anything near the same value for money or reliability. The fact that you seem to have moved to Skoda helps with my decision process. Thanks fir the post.
Just before I finally bit the bullet, I specced up a Disco Sport to as close to my Kodiaq as possible, so the HSE Dynamic Lux with options as close to what I've bought and the list price came out at £56,600!!! Given the discount I got on the Kodiaq (around 17%), the difference is ridiculous!
New car: Kodiaq Sportline 2.0TDI 190 4x4 DSG
Previous:
2016 LR Disco Sport HSE Lux
2008 Audi A5 3.0TDI
2003 Audi S4 4.2 V8
1998 Audi A4 2.8 quattro
1995 Audi A4 1.8T Sport
1992 VW Golf Mk3 1.9 TD
1990 Ford Escort Mk5 1.6 LX
1983 Vauxhall Astra Mk1 1.3 S


Alan Chapple
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Re: Just joined - coming from Land Rover

Post by Alan Chapple » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:48 pm

scratch113 wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:21 pm
Colin Lambert wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:04 pm
Welcome to the forum. Good choice!
Judging by other comments on the forum you have made a wise move leaving the LR camp!!
Thanks,

Yes, I won't miss some of the "joys" of being a Land Rover owner! Nothing major (thankfully) in the 32 months I owned mine, but plenty of visits to the dealer for lots of little things going wrong. The pitiful size of the fuel tank (45 litres) got quite tiresome by the end as well...

Overall the Disco Sport was a very comfortable car to drive, but just too many things not right with it. As you can see from my signature, it's a welcome return to the VAG fold!
I had the misfortune to own a 'Disco Sport' too, purchased brand new from Taggarts North in Sept 2017, it was eventually rejected as unfit for purpose by finance company in May last year as it genuinely spent more time in the garage than it did in my driveway. From memory, we had exhaust fumes pouring into car through heating vents more than once, EGR valves changed more than once, DPF filter changed, catalytic converter changed etc. In total it only did about 3,000 miles and there was/is defo a major issue that JLR are keeping quiet. Trying to get the car booked in was a nightmare, there were iirc 160 cars on-site at any given time awaiting repair and they really struggled to supply courtesy cars due to sheer colume of broken down vehicles.
2.0 TDI 190bhp, Edition, 4x4, DSG, Quartz Grey


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FoxtrotAlpha
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Re: Just joined - coming from Land Rover

Post by FoxtrotAlpha » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:26 pm

Alan Chapple wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:48 pm
scratch113 wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:21 pm
Colin Lambert wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:04 pm
Welcome to the forum. Good choice!
Judging by other comments on the forum you have made a wise move leaving the LR camp!!
Thanks,

Yes, I won't miss some of the "joys" of being a Land Rover owner! Nothing major (thankfully) in the 32 months I owned mine, but plenty of visits to the dealer for lots of little things going wrong. The pitiful size of the fuel tank (45 litres) got quite tiresome by the end as well...

Overall the Disco Sport was a very comfortable car to drive, but just too many things not right with it. As you can see from my signature, it's a welcome return to the VAG fold!
I had the misfortune to own a 'Disco Sport' too, purchased brand new from Taggarts North in Sept 2017, it was eventually rejected as unfit for purpose by finance company in May last year as it genuinely spent more time in the garage than it did in my driveway. From memory, we had exhaust fumes pouring into car through heating vents more than once, EGR valves changed more than once, DPF filter changed, catalytic converter changed etc. In total it only did about 3,000 miles and there was/is defo a major issue that JLR are keeping quiet. Trying to get the car booked in was a nightmare, there were iirc 160 cars on-site at any given time awaiting repair and they really struggled to supply courtesy cars due to sheer colume of broken down vehicles.
The few people I know with the Discovery Sport seem to have allot of issue with the clutches burning out. Nothing makes me want to move to Land Rover, price and quality are a barrier.

The Skoda badge may not have the same kudos as Land Rover for the car snobs and I have had many issues with the Kodiaq but I will renew it with another one. Probably Sportline although vRS is still tempting (makes no sense on paper but who cares it’s only money).
It's a 'Kodiaq' and not a 'Bear' unless you are 5 years old.
Kodiaq Edition - 150 TDI - DSG 4 x 4 - Quartz Grey - Canton
Sportline on order with Virtual Cockpit.


scratch113
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Re: Just joined - coming from Land Rover

Post by scratch113 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:31 pm

FoxtrotAlpha wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:26 pm
Alan Chapple wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:48 pm
scratch113 wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:21 pm


Thanks,

Yes, I won't miss some of the "joys" of being a Land Rover owner! Nothing major (thankfully) in the 32 months I owned mine, but plenty of visits to the dealer for lots of little things going wrong. The pitiful size of the fuel tank (45 litres) got quite tiresome by the end as well...

Overall the Disco Sport was a very comfortable car to drive, but just too many things not right with it. As you can see from my signature, it's a welcome return to the VAG fold!
I had the misfortune to own a 'Disco Sport' too, purchased brand new from Taggarts North in Sept 2017, it was eventually rejected as unfit for purpose by finance company in May last year as it genuinely spent more time in the garage than it did in my driveway. From memory, we had exhaust fumes pouring into car through heating vents more than once, EGR valves changed more than once, DPF filter changed, catalytic converter changed etc. In total it only did about 3,000 miles and there was/is defo a major issue that JLR are keeping quiet. Trying to get the car booked in was a nightmare, there were iirc 160 cars on-site at any given time awaiting repair and they really struggled to supply courtesy cars due to sheer colume of broken down vehicles.
The few people I know with the Discovery Sport seem to have allot of issue with the clutches burning out. Nothing makes me want to move to Land Rover, price and quality are a barrier.

The Skoda badge may not have the same kudos as Land Rover for the car snobs and I have had many issues with the Kodiaq but I will renew it with another one. Probably Sportline although vRS is still tempting (makes no sense on paper but who cares it’s only money).
Mine wasn't nearly as bad as that, but a succession of minor niggles and a lack of understanding of their own product from the dealer led to me leaving the brand, never to return. Worst was the squealing brakes, which I started to suffer once it got cold in the winter when the car was just 9 months old. It sounded like a train coming to a stop and was really quite offensive to anyone standing within around 200 yards of the car. That took a further 9 months to 'resolve' as LR admitted there was a problem and eventually redesigned the brake pads and then rolled them out for fitting to customers who had this problem, but that took a ridiculous length of time.

Other faults included 4 trips to the dealer to fix a rattling blown speaker in the rear door, which I had diagnosed and told the dealer what the problem was, but at the first visit they said they couldn't find a fault (transpired they'd looked at the front door, not the rear as they said there was a common rattle with the front door). On the second attempt they again said they couldn't recreate the fault, but it did it again as I drove off their forecourt, so I turned around and took it straight back in. They then sent a technician out for me to demonstrate the rattling speaker (so bad by this stage that even speech on the radio was an annoying buzz), however they then had to book it back in for a third visit. The third time they did find the fault and when they handed the car back told me that yes, as I'd originally diagnosed, the rear speaker was blown and needed replacing - but they didn't have one and it took another three weeks to get one in. All in, this took over 4 months of going back and forth to the dealer to fix what ought to be a simple fault (and which I'd told them what was wrong in the first place).

I also had the water ingress to the tailgate (a common issue) that took 3 attempts to fix, condensation in the rear light clusters (fish could have swum around in the water the rear lights collected!), a service indicator that had a mind of its own and would randomly tell me a service was due when it wasn't, but then didn't tell me when it was and a slipping drive belt for the power steering that made the car sound like a 20-year old Astra van. The infotainment software also had a mind of its own, often 'forgetting' your settings as well as all of the stored DAB and FM radio settings. Also using my connected iPod was pure torture as LR have clearly decided that Apple know nothing about how to navigate around a collection of music and have come up with their own way of doing it that doesn't allow you to see the track list of the album you're currently playing or go back up through the menu system.

But the final nail in the coffin of me ever having another one was a colleague at work who bought a new one about this time last year. He has already had three oil changes as the diesel particulates get into the oil and the sensor then tells him to get the car serviced roughly every 6000 miles. At the moment LR are doing this as a goodwill gesture for the multitude of customers with this fault on the Disco Sport, but I for one wasn't willing to risk it again with such a shoddily built product.

Having said all that, the seats were very comfortable and the off road capability was truly phenomenal (but I only experienced that in one of their cars on the free Land Rover Experience day they give you when you buy a car - never took mine off road anyway!)

In the end, I'm glad to be back in the VAG stable!!
New car: Kodiaq Sportline 2.0TDI 190 4x4 DSG
Previous:
2016 LR Disco Sport HSE Lux
2008 Audi A5 3.0TDI
2003 Audi S4 4.2 V8
1998 Audi A4 2.8 quattro
1995 Audi A4 1.8T Sport
1992 VW Golf Mk3 1.9 TD
1990 Ford Escort Mk5 1.6 LX
1983 Vauxhall Astra Mk1 1.3 S


CEL321
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Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:15 am
Location: West Sussex

Re: Just joined - coming from Land Rover

Post by CEL321 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:17 am

I traded in my Range Rover Sport for a Kodiak last May, mainly because the Land Rover products have got so ridiculously expensive.


I do miss the air suspension and being that bit higher up but apart from that am delighted. The Kodiak is a great drive and fantastic value for money.
2.0 TSI Scout. Driver Assistance package and Dynamic Chassis Control


Mattsv
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Location: Southampton

Re: Just joined - coming from Land Rover

Post by Mattsv » Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:50 am

I test drove a Disco Sport HSE a week after testing the Kodiaq, and to be honest I was pretty underwhelmed. It just felt gutless (180 2.0d) compared to the 190 Kodiaq.

I prefer the look of the Disco, and liked the fact that the rear view camera can be displayed on the entertainment screen all the time (i.e. alternative to rear view mirror).

However, the reliability horror stories with the LR and VFM spec wise of the Kodiaq edged me towards staying with Skoda (currently in a VRS230). Once the missus said that the seats in the Disco weren't very comfortable that was decision made for me - I would never heard the end of it if I had gone for the Disco.

My new Kodiaq should be rolling off the line any day now, just in time for when the lease on the VRS runs out at the end of March...
Moonstone White Edition 190 4x4 DSG with pano roof, ACC, front sensors, rear camera, heated screen & washers, virtual cockpit, spare wheel


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