Keyless systems.

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FoxtrotAlpha
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Keyless systems.

Post by FoxtrotAlpha » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:33 am

Here's another U.K. news story on the vulnerability of keyless entry systems. Nothing new except those with motion detection (a the new MY20 Kodiaq) seem to be more resistant.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49273028

I'm not too worries as I turn it off when parked somewhere dodgy and my new Kodiaq with motion detection is delivered next week.
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Re: Keyless systems.

Post by Silverbear » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:45 am

As you no doubt expect, I really can't see the point of keyless entry. I barely see the point of central locking.
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Re: Keyless systems.

Post by Kenny R » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:51 am

I on the other hand love the convenience of keyless entry/ start and not worried about vulnerability as ..
1 Do thieves really want to steal a Kodiaq
2 I also disable the keyless entry when parked somewhere I don’t know
3 I keep my keys in a Faraday cage pouch when it’s parked at home or at out caravan.
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Re: Keyless systems.

Post by FoxtrotAlpha » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:29 am

Kenny R wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:51 am
I on the other hand love the convenience of keyless entry/ start and not worried about vulnerability as ..
1 Do thieves really want to steal a Kodiaq
2 I also disable the keyless entry when parked somewhere I don’t know
3 I keep my keys in a Faraday cage pouch when it’s parked at home or at out caravan.
I totally agree with the convenience of keyless systems and I use it nearly all the time. I'm unsure if Kodiaqs are not worth stealing but there are some higher priced cars more worthy of crime.

I dont bother with faraday pouches as you can turn the KESSY system off with the key gobs anyway, that's what i do if parked somewhere that posses a risk. Little or no risk where i live unless sheep are stealing cars now.
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Re: Keyless systems.

Post by Colin Lambert » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:49 am

I agree with FA. I am of similar age to Silverbear and I use it all the time.
Central locking is essential for old chaps like me. How many times in pre central locking did I lock the drivers door and left another (or all others) unlocked.
Electric boot is a good idea with a possible problem for dog owners (with dog inside with badly behave dogs)
+easy to open when hands full even without 'foot waggly' switch.
- Once you've pressed the open button you can only stop it with one of the buttons. which takes too long to stop the dog forcing his way out before the tailgate is fully open when he sees a cat or fox .........as my Lurcher has proved!!
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Re: Keyless systems.

Post by Silverbear » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:10 am

Colin Lambert wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:49 am
I agree with FA. I am of similar age to Silverbear and I use it all the time.
Central locking is essential for old chaps like me. How many times in pre central locking did I lock the drivers door and left another (or all others) unlocked.
Electric boot is a good idea with a possible problem for dog owners (with dog inside with badly behave dogs)
+easy to open when hands full even without 'foot waggly' switch.
- Once you've pressed the open button you can only stop it with one of the buttons. which takes too long to stop the dog forcing his way out before the tailgate is fully open when he sees a cat or fox .........as my Lurcher has proved!!
I walk round the car and check all doors are locked, every time. Have done for 35 years. Sometimes I find a window slighly open too on my ritual tour of the cars perimeter. I take the view flashing indicators show me the indictors work and it is an act of faith that the mechanism for checking the doors are locked before flashing the indictors is working. A locked door is a door proven to not open when the door handle is used.

Regarding the electric boot my small children can close the boot using the 'handle' which dangles from the tail gate for this purpose. That's when they are not merrily jumping in the air reaching the tailgate itself. That said, the electric tailgate is useful for those who need it but it should be an option so that those who don't need it don't suffer the draw backs but then I suppose everything would be an optional extra, such is the nature of the beast.
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Re: Keyless systems.

Post by FoxtrotAlpha » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:35 am

Colin Lambert wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:49 am
I agree with FA. I am of similar age to Silverbear and I use it all the time.
Central locking is essential for old chaps like me. How many times in pre central locking did I lock the drivers door and left another (or all others) unlocked.
Electric boot is a good idea with a possible problem for dog owners (with dog inside with badly behave dogs)
+easy to open when hands full even without 'foot waggly' switch.
- Once you've pressed the open button you can only stop it with one of the buttons. which takes too long to stop the dog forcing his way out before the tailgate is fully open when he sees a cat or fox .........as my Lurcher has proved!!
I have a lurcher cross, ours has been trained not to run off and wait on command (might be as she is from good gun dog stock and we have spent many hours training her). Anyway one less fox isn't a bad thing in my book.

Never had an issue with the electric tailgate to be fair.
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Re: Keyless systems.

Post by SkodaVRS1963 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:20 pm

Silverbear wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:45 am
As you no doubt expect, I really can't see the point of keyless entry. I barely see the point of central locking.
It's one of those "ooh I don't need to get my keys out of my pocket" fads that seems to give you extra street cred.

The one frustrating thing with my Kodiaq is it only works on the front doors; on my wife's Ford, it's on all four doors.

Annoying when you're off to the gym and want to put your gym bag on the back seat.

#firstworldproblemsforme

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Re: Keyless systems.

Post by Old and Grumpy » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:28 pm

SkodaVRS1963 wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:20 pm
Silverbear wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:45 am
As you no doubt expect, I really can't see the point of keyless entry. I barely see the point of central locking.
It's one of those "ooh I don't need to get my keys out of my pocket" fads that seems to give you extra street cred.

The one frustrating thing with my Kodiaq is it only works on the front doors; on my wife's Ford, it's on all four doors.

Annoying when you're off to the gym and want to put your gym bag on the back seat.

#firstworldproblemsforme

:D
On my Kodiaq I can unlock all doors and the tailgate with three presses on the remote. Have you tried that?
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Re: Keyless systems.

Post by SkodaVRS1963 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:13 pm

Old and Grumpy wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:28 pm
On my Kodiaq I can unlock all doors and the tailgate with three presses on the remote. Have you tried that?
Pah, my key is in my pocket, it's just too much effort to get it out and exercise my fingers :roll:
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