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I'd previously test-driven and ordered the 190 DSG Diesel (separate post detailed that test drive) but subsequently decided to change my order to petrol.....the 2.0 TSI 180 engine. My dealer has just taken delivery of one of these as a demo / stock model, so I've had a quick test drive in that, and been able to directly compare not just the engine but also a few other features......

Engine - definitely a slight bit more responsive than the diesel and eager to rev. Also noticeably quieter. I would be totally happy with either engine, both are fantastic, and of course it's down to personal choice, type of driving etc. For me I'm saving £1500 on the purchase price, but after 3 years (given my mileage) the costs will be pretty much even. Having switched to petrol I get a slightly better performing car, and slightly de-risk against the current anti-diesel movement and any impact on residual values.....but as a long-term diesel fan I could very happily have gone either way and wouldn't be disappointed with either choice.

Panoramic roof - love it. Definitely glad I've ordered it, both for the extra light in the cabin, as well as the option of some fresh air!

DCC - Only tried this briefly. Again there is pretty much a 50/50 split of people who are pro- or anti- DCC and I respect both views, it's personal choice......personally I'm glad I have NOT ordered it. "Comfort" mode I found to be very "wallowing" and rolling with every turn.....perfect for bringing on car-sickness. And Sport mode I found unnecessarily harsh and you feel every bump. Normal mode is great, no body roll to worry about, etc. and feels exactly the same as the non-DCC model I'd tried previously. If I'd opted for DCC I reckon it would have permanently stayed in "normal" and I'd be annoyed at wasting £1000.

Gearbox (DSG) - as reported by others, slightly jerky on pulling away (same with both petrol and diesel), but not a problem. In normal "D" mode there is a lag when accelerating (I was simulating an over-take, accelerating 40-60ish) but not really any different than I had in my previous car (LR Discovery Sport) and I got used to that very quickly, and how to pre-empt it. The lag is far less in "S" mode.

But overall this 2nd test drive has absolutely reinforced that this is a lovely car to drive, very comfortable, and can't wait to get my hands on mine in a couple of months.
 

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I don't know were the jerky pull away comes from ... my previous car (Octavia DSG) and the Kodiaq DSG I have found very smooth, perhaps I have a more progressive foot, even though my wife thinks its leaden :lol:

Interesting to read your thoughts, I never got to test drive any before I ordered, but it was always going to be a petrol for me due to low miles and personal preference.
 

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Really looking forward to driving mine....pick it up Monday..
 

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Jerky pull away can be caused by auto hold function. I've disabled mine and rely on my own brain when to engage the hand brake.

They drive very smooth when pulling away with this disabled.
 

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Thanks......good point re auto hold. It was enabled in both my test drive cars and I didn't change that setting. Happy to disable it and manually control the handbrake!
 

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Deshy said:
Really looking forward to driving mine....pick it up Monday..
Happy days!
But don't forget your obligation as new owner: a post with pics and first impressions!
 

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$k0d1ak said:
Deshy said:
Really looking forward to driving mine....pick it up Monday..
Happy days!
But don't forget your obligation as new owner: a post with pics and first impressions!
I will but as I'm currently recovering from an op.. driving will be minimal till atleast the weekend
 

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Jerky pull away can be caused by auto hold function. I've disabled mine and rely on my own brain when to engage the hand brake.

They drive very smooth when pulling away with this disabled.
Possibly, but I also use the auto hold/handbrake and don't suffer from it.
 

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I too have ordered a 180 TSI without test drive, but drove the 190TDI, thanks for the review very reassuring. Did you give any consideration to ordering the MFSW with paddles? Would this help with any DSG issues do you think?

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Hiya,

I had flappy paddles on my last car (LR Discovery Sport) and very rarely used them.

Given that the DSG box on the Kodiaq can be put into "manual mode" by pushing left, and then you can easily change up or down (for me in a much more natural way than flappy paddles especially when cornering so the paddles are at an angle) I know that on the Kodiaq I would barely use the paddles at all, but I know I will use the manual option on the "gearstick".
 

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Hi Sprower,

They came on a Mini Cooper S auto we had, and I never really used them either, so I have not specified them either. But I had the same experience of the hesitant pull away testing the diesel DSG. I can't ever remember this being an issue in a 2005 2.OTDI DSG golf I had, considering that it changes gear in fractions of a second, I wondered if the paddles may get round this. But as you point out, the same can be achieved through the 'gearstick'. Hopefully the comments about the auto hold will resolve this. Apparently Basingstoke has one of the highest ratios of round about to population in the country, we all wear out our tyres in the same way! Unpredictable sluggish get always at round abouts would be a real pain.
 

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Roundabouts? Basingstoke? I'm extremely worried about the DSG ive ordered living in Milton Keynes! Ah well sure it'll be fine (and I ordered paddles anyways cos I've never had an auto before and thought I'd give them a go!)
 

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I'm told by Someone Who Knows that new engines are now electronically de-tuned when brand new, and re-set themselves electronically after a set number of miles.

May explain sluggish pull away in demo.
 

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Any one compared the noise levels between the 2.0 TSI & the 1.4 TSI - are they similar or is the 1.4 noticeably quieter than the 2.0? How about smoothness?
I haven't been in a 1.4, but I can say I don't think their will be any difference in sound levels, my 2.0 TSI is the quietest car I have owned.
You get a muted growl when asking for some oomph, but otherwise the engine is near on indiscernible and buttery smooth.
Road noise and wind noise I find to be very supressed.
 

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Ordered Edition 2.0 TDI 187 PS with few extras in Perl Black - not sure I have done right thing after I red some articles regarding Diesel Road TAX increase.
Any way I hope that new diesel's won't be affected that much :p
 

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Ordered Edition 2.0 TDI 187 PS with few extras in Perl Black - not sure I have done right thing after I red some articles regarding Diesel Road TAX increase.
Any way I hope that new diesel's won't be affected that much :p
Sorry, not in UK myself - could you give an example of what a Kodiaq with that spec pays and what changes are being discussed?
I'm afraid Ireland will happily follow lead to Road Tax increases in neighbouring UK.
 

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Well after driving the 2.0 TSI and 190TDI I'm changing from petrol to diesel. Drove the diesel again last Saturday and this Saturday I have a drive in the TSI to put the final nail in the coffin.
 

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