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Just received news about the upcoming model year change. I have no proper confirmation, however down the grapevine, people who work for Skoda in some markets have divulged some information:

  • 190PS/140kW TDI new replaced with 200PS/147kW TDI engine
  • New 180kW TSI engine available (I kinda doubt this, however this comes from a rep for Skoda Germany)
  • New steering wheel from Octavia with capacitive hand detection
  • MIB 3 infotainment, which entails the following:
    <LIST>
    • USB C replaces USB A
    • No more DVD/CD slot, SD slots
    • Online functionality via eSIM (built in)
    • Wireless App-Connect
</LIST>
  • KESSY sensors for all 4 doors
  • Ventilation and seat depth adjustment available for RS/Sportline
  • Sleep Package temporarily removed (due to supply constraints)
  • ACC now up to 200kph instead of 160/210

With facelift coming out next year, I think I'm going to wait for it before considering upgrading.
 
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Nothing much of practical interest there for me. What is "capacitive hand detection"? Sounds like an annoying beep if you take one hand off the wheel. I wonder if it works with gloves, my touch screens and my mouse pad don't.

I am interested in model year 2029, my Kodiaq's planned replacement year!
 

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Not that I'm planning to change my car anytime soon as I'm only 17 months into the 4 year PCP deal on my car, but I'm mostly disappointed that there's no PHEV version, especially given that the Superb IV has been out for a while now, so Skoda has the tech and the Kodiaq can't be lacking in space for it...
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Silverbear said:
Nothing much of practical interest there for me. What is "capacitive hand detection"? Sounds like an annoying beep if you take one hand off the wheel. I wonder if it works with gloves, my touch screens and my mouse pad don't.

I am interested in model year 2029, my Kodiaq's planned replacement year!
From what I understand this is part of VAG taking their cars to the next level to automation (level 2). It introduces the Travel Assist system which replaces its predecessor Traffic Jam Assist and lane detection.

Presently if there car receives no feedback from the driver (small movements of the steering wheel) visual, physical and audible warnings are given, capacitive hand detection (Hands off detection) is just a different way of detecting if the driver is holding the wheel.

I hope that Traffic Assist will use both capacitive and physical feedback from the driver to compensate for the more senior glove wearing drivers as it am led to believe the absence of feedback will result in the Emergency Assist system being activated which includes automatic emergency braking.
 
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FoxtrotAlpha said:
Silverbear said:
Nothing much of practical interest there for me. What is "capacitive hand detection"? Sounds like an annoying beep if you take one hand off the wheel. I wonder if it works with gloves, my touch screens and my mouse pad don't.

I am interested in model year 2029, my Kodiaq's planned replacement year!
From what I understand this is part of VAG taking their cars to the next level to automation (level 2). It introduces the Travel Assist system which replaces its predecessor Traffic Jam Assist and lane detection.

Presently if there car receives no feedback from the driver (small movements of the steering wheel) visual, physical and audible warnings are given, capacitive hand detection (Hands off detection) is just a different way of detecting if the driver is holding the wheel.

I hope that Traffic Assist will use both capacitive and physical feedback from the driver to compensate for the more senior glove wearing drivers as it am led to believe the absence of feedback will result in the Emergency Assist system being activated which includes automatic emergency braking.
I have experience of autonomous emergency braking when I don't brake the way the car thinks is best and it is a nerve racking experience. The hump backed bridge that the car thought merited an emergency stop, the walled hairpin bend, the oncoming motorist who expertly overtook a cyclist before neatly tucking in causing my car to needlessly suddenly brake hard, and a variety of other normal everday occurances that I did not provide the expected input for and so caused emergency braking. I am in no hurry to experience more 'help'.
 

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Roadside 'furniture' on left hand bends are my 'favourite'!!!
 
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My car was rear ended a few months ago by a car as we were stopped at a junction. At the bodyshop we used to replace the bumper was a written off Golf, rear all smashed in. It had done an emerency stop on a clear motorway according to the chap at the bodyshop and the following car had piled into the back. He said it was "with the lawyers" working out who was at fault and data from the car had apparently been sent to Germany. Now I don't know what the actual circumstances were and I don't know how it turned out but my car has done some hair raising braking of its own accord and each time I wonder who would be deamed at fault if the car behind went into me because stopping fast for no reason is driving without due care and attention.
 

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I experienced this once or twice when the car was new, (roadside furniture on the left to blame), but once I had tweaked the sensitivity through Infotainment it's never happened again in the two years I've had the car.
 
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So are you saying there is a setting in your car, possibly even a default setting, that will automatically apply the brakes incorrectly?
 

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Silverbear said:
So are you saying there is a setting in your car, possibly even a default setting, that will automatically apply the brakes incorrectly?
There is a setting for the sensitivity of the "Emergency Braking" system. When I got the car it was set to "High". I set it to "Medium" and it cured the problem.

From the digital manual;

Settings in Infotainment
Read and observe and on page 251 first.
› In the infotainment system, in menu "CAR" and "SETTINGS" tap on function surface "Driver
Assistance".
■ Front Assist (ambient traffic monitor. sys.) - Set the assistant for distance
monitoring to the vehicles ahead
■ Active - Activate/deactivate the assistant
■ Advance warning (Version 1) - Activate/deactivate advance warning
■ Advance warning (Version 2) - Activating/deactivating and setting the distance
level at which a warning occurs
■ Display distance warning - Activate/deactivate distance warnings
Operation
Read and observe and on page 251 first.
The system support is provided in the following manner.
▶ Alerts you about a dangerous proximity to the vehicle ahead.
▶ Warns you of an impending collision.
▶ Assists with a brake action triggered by the driver.
▶ If the driver fails to respond to a detected danger, an automatic braking action
is performed.
The system can work only if the following basic conditions are met.
The system is activated.
TCS is activated » page 220.
The vehicle is travelling forwards at a speed of more than approx. 5 km/h.
Note
The system can be impaired or may not be available, for example when driving
in "sharp "curves or with an ESC engagement » page 219.
 

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You can also turn it off! (or you could on my 17 plate K)
BTW. I am told that the driver who rear ends you is ALWAYS to blame in law as the highway code instructs one to drive a a distance which enables you to stop at a safe distance.
If a deer ran across your path I deny anybody to NOT hit the brake pedal to avoid writing off both deer and own car.
What is the difference? None! If the driver behind can't stop in time it is his fault for driving too close to your rear end! End of!
 

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Colin Lambert said:
You can also turn it off! (or you could on my 17 plate K)
BTW. I am told that the driver who rear ends you is ALWAYS to blame in law as the highway code instructs one to drive a a distance which enables you to stop at a safe distance.
If a deer ran across your path I deny anybody to NOT hit the brake pedal to avoid writing off both deer and own car.
What is the difference? None! If the driver behind can't stop in time it is his fault for driving too close to your rear end! End of!
I believe there is a possible defence if the car in front has no working brake light. :?:
 
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Silverbear said:
So are you saying there is a setting in your car, possibly even a default setting, that will automatically apply the brakes incorrectly?
There is a setting for the sensitivity of the "Emergency Braking" system. When I got the car it was set to "High". I set it to "Medium" and it cured the problem.
After reading the many posts on here of the foibles of the emergency braking system and it's tendency to slam the brakes on for no reason, I changed mine to the medium setting when I collected my Kodiaq.
 

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One other minor thing - if the car is performing an emergency application of the brake and the driver applies accelerator, then the car relinquishes control to the driver. It does at least assume that the human knows better!

To that end, if you're on a motorway (or elsewhere for that matter) and the emergency brake comes on for no good reason, it is really pretty dull to allow it to continue to bring the car to a complete stop, which will take somewhere in the region of 5 seconds - just accelerate through it and the car behind will not rear end you! Allowing it to stop from 70mph when there is nothing in front of you is not necessary.

No excuse for either inattention or complacency when in control of a vehicle!
 

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No excuse for either inattention or complacency when in control of a vehicle!
No excuse, but plenty of reasons. There's phones, music, sat nav and the infotainment system as a whole. All those things are in there and fiddling with any of them causes attention to be distracted away from the primary function of being in charge of a vehicle, which should be driving it properly.
Reading comments and questions on here and elsewhere indicate to me that there are many who are far more interested in the electronic aids and trickery in their car than they are in getting from A to B in a proper fashion without aggravating other road users.

I've long thought that the standard of driving has dropped over the years, but maybe that isn't the case, maybe it's always been there but now it's more noticeable because there are many more cars on the road.

It's called progress by some, it's not what I call it !!

Guess I'm showing my age now, I'll be accused by FA of being a Luddite shortly :eek:
 
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You can also turn it off! (or you could on my 17 plate K)
BTW. I am told that the driver who rear ends you is ALWAYS to blame in law as the highway code instructs one to drive a a distance which enables you to stop at a safe distance.
If a deer ran across your path I deny anybody to NOT hit the brake pedal to avoid writing off both deer and own car.
What is the difference? None! If the driver behind can't stop in time it is his fault for driving too close to your rear end! End of!
Easy to show this is not true. Imagine a driver driving inches from your bumper and you stand on your brakes to teach them a lesson and they die in the accident. You will go to prison for death by dangerous driving and your insurance might be void as you are likely in breach of its condition to drive with due care. Now imagine the same situation but your car brakes for no reason on its own. Who is at fault? You, the other driver, the company that made the car, the individual who wrote the software, the person who tested the design?
 

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Who is at fault? You, the other driver, the company that made the car, the individual who wrote the software, the person who tested the design?
Still the driver behind because we should all follow at a distance that allows us to stop if the driver in front has to make an emergency stop.
And which driver wouldn't do an emergency stop if a child or animal stepped out in front of them. You'd have to be some piece of work if you didn't just to prevent the nob following too close running into you.
Same goes for autonomous braking and if it bothers anyone they should turn it off.
And if someone dies because the car in front brakes hard on purpose, same thing, they were too close, serves them right.
And how does anyone prove you braked hard on purpose ? Bloody cat ran out in front of me officer, couldn't help it, it was a natural reaction !!

Having said all that, these things will continue to happen because we're human and we all cock up sometimes.
It'll still continue when all cars are completely autonomous because an electronic glitch maybe.

If you believe in God, you might construe that it's one of his ways of thinning out the population - a bit like Covid really :idea:
 
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And what about the child that dies in the following car, does it serve them right too? Life is not so simple. The law is not so simple that it is unconditionally the following cars fault, and thank goodness for that.
 

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And what about the child that dies in the following car, does it serve them right too? Life is not so simple. The law is not so simple that it is unconditionally the following cars fault, and thank goodness for that.
Shame about the child and shame his parent was such an arse. The parent had a responsibility to stay out of trouble with his offspring in the car.
If someone is doing the wrong thing then punishment is coming their way and you'll get no change from me on that !
I've had a vehicle on my bumper on the M4 at speed before, where both the driver and his young offspring were both giving me the finger (s), not because I'd sinned, but purely because they were ignorant and impatient.

You'll start telling me about innocent babies shortly, don't tell me, tell the parents !

This has now strayed too far from the original post, so I'm done. We obviously have vastly differing views about how to drive a DSG and nobs who really shouldn't be allowed out on the roads without a carer. ;)
 
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Silverbear said:
And what about the child that dies in the following car, does it serve them right too? Life is not so simple. The law is not so simple that it is unconditionally the following cars fault, and thank goodness for that.
Shame about the child and shame his parent was such an arse. The parent had a responsibility to stay out of trouble with his offspring in the car.
If someone is doing the wrong thing then punishment is coming their way and you'll get no change from me on that !
I've had a vehicle on my bumper on the M4 at speed before, where both the driver and his young offspring were both giving me the finger (s), not because I'd sinned, but purely because they were ignorant and impatient.

You'll start telling me about innocent babies shortly, don't tell me, tell the parents !

This has now strayed too far from the original post, so I'm done. We obviously have vastly differing views about how to drive a DSG and nobs who really shouldn't be allowed out on the roads without a carer. ;)
I hadn't noticed us disagree about how to drive a DSG, you all sound like you drive them the way I do. But you do all sound disappointed with my evaluation of a DSG but only I think because I suggest I can drive a manual more smoothly. Perhaps if you all came for a drive with me in a manual the penny would drop. I must stress that my passengers think my DSG is lovely, it is only me who knows they would have an even smoother drive if I could drive them in my previous manual VW. It was an innocent observation of mine, I didn't think you would all turn it into something it was not, a criticism of the lovely DSG gearbox.
 
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