[gojoholo]

My wifes car ... I can open the drivers door and look back when reversing ...

Yeah that is a bit annoying. Given the lack of visibility in the Kodiaq and the inability to maneuver with the door open, the Area view camera should be standard on all models.

 

[Old and Grumpy]

My wifes car ... I can open the drivers door and look back when reversing ...

Yeah that is a bit annoying. Given the lack of visibility in the Kodiaq and the inability to maneuver with the door open, the Area view camera should be standard on all models.

So drop the window and/or adjust the door mirror, what's the problem?

Also, before you get in the car it's good pratice to walk round the back and memorise what obstructions may have to be avoided, (and a quick look at the tyres). It's not that difficult - how did we all manage manoevering before the days of all these modern gizmos? We all used a bit of common sense! And if you think the rear visibility of a Kodiaq is bad, try reversing an Austin 10, (no wing mirrors at all and a very small rear window), or an A30, (with wing mirrors so far forward you couldn't reach them to adjust them and with a very limited field of view).

Remember, this is an old fart talking, from the days of SU carburetors and dash pots, (ask your Dad), distributors, leaded petrol, oil changes every 3,000 miles, cross ply tyres, no seat belts, no air bags, no ABS, no servo assisted brakes, no power steering, no tyre pressure monitoring, no front radar, etc. etc. etc. etc............. How did we ever manage I wonder?

OK, I'm ready for the flak! You youngsters feel free to fire off a few volleys at me.

:roll:

 

[Guest]

My wifes car ... I can open the drivers door and look back when reversing ...

Yeah that is a bit annoying. Given the lack of visibility in the Kodiaq and the inability to maneuver with the door open, the Area view camera should be standard on all models.

Much easier to just allow the door to be open. Technology isn't always required to fix a problem. Even if it is deemed appropriate to prevent the car moving forward with a door open I fail to see why this must be applied to reversing. I've been opening doors while reversing for 35 years. Never needed a camera.

 

[Guest]

My wifes car ... I can open the drivers door and look back when reversing ...

Yeah that is a bit annoying. Given the lack of visibility in the Kodiaq and the inability to maneuver with the door open, the Area view camera should be standard on all models.

So drop the window and/or adjust the door mirror, what's the problem?

Also, before you get in the car it's good pratice to walk round the back and memorise what obstructions may have to be avoided, (and a quick look at the tyres). It's not that difficult - how did we all manage manoevering before the days of all these modern gizmos? We all used a bit of common sense! And if you think the rear visibility of a Kodiaq is bad, try reversing an Austin 10, (no wing mirrors at all and a very small rear window), or an A30, (with wing mirrors so far forward you couldn't reach them to adjust them and with a very limited field of view).

Remember, this is an old fart talking, from the days of SU carburetors and dash pots, (ask your Dad), distributors, leaded petrol, oil changes every 3,000 miles, cross ply tyres, no seat belts, no air bags, no ABS, no servo assisted brakes, no power steering, no tyre pressure monitoring, no front radar, etc. etc. etc. etc............. How did we ever manage I wonder?

OK, I'm ready for the flak! You youngsters feel free to fire off a few volleys at me.

:roll:

Opening a window or adjusting a door mirror is not as useful as opening a door though. First of all it is much slower having to wait for a window to open or operate a mirror, more so in busy traffic and people beeping impatiently. Secondly when I open a door I can see where the car is from the A pillar all the way to the back of the car including up the back to the rear of the roof and I can see with my own eyes rather than through a camera which quite possibly has introduced distortions depending on the focal length of its lens. Also, and I find this with the reversing camera, using the infotainment screen to view the camera means I'm looking the wrong way! I'm looking forward when I should be looking back. These reversing cameras need screens at the back of the car so that when you are looking back you see the camera screen AND you are looking the right way. Thinking about it as I write this putting the screen in the dash is not the best place!

 

[Old and Grumpy]

Yeah that is a bit annoying. Given the lack of visibility in the Kodiaq and the inability to maneuver with the door open, the Area view camera should be standard on all models.

So drop the window and/or adjust the door mirror, what's the problem?

Also, before you get in the car it's good pratice to walk round the back and memorise what obstructions may have to be avoided, (and a quick look at the tyres). It's not that difficult - how did we all manage manoevering before the days of all these modern gizmos? We all used a bit of common sense! And if you think the rear visibility of a Kodiaq is bad, try reversing an Austin 10, (no wing mirrors at all and a very small rear window), or an A30, (with wing mirrors so far forward you couldn't reach them to adjust them and with a very limited field of view).

Remember, this is an old fart talking, from the days of SU carburetors and dash pots, (ask your Dad), distributors, leaded petrol, oil changes every 3,000 miles, cross ply tyres, no seat belts, no air bags, no ABS, no servo assisted brakes, no power steering, no tyre pressure monitoring, no front radar, etc. etc. etc. etc............. How did we ever manage I wonder?

OK, I'm ready for the flak! You youngsters feel free to fire off a few volleys at me.

:roll:

Opening a window or adjusting a door mirror is not as useful as opening a door though. First of all it is much slower having to wait for a window to open or operate a mirror, more so in busy traffic and people beeping impatiently. Secondly when I open a door I can see where the car is from the A pillar all the way to the back of the car including up the back to the rear of the roof and I can see with my own eyes rather than through a camera which quite possibly has introduced distortions depending on the focal length of its lens. Also, and I find this with the reversing camera, using the infotainment screen to view the camera means I'm looking the wrong way! I'm looking forward when I should be looking back. These reversing cameras need screens at the back of the car so that when you are looking back you see the camera screen AND you are looking the right way. Thinking about it as I write this putting the screen in the dash is not the best place!

As long as somebody doesn't take the door, (and your hand), off as they pass too close!!!

 

[Guest]

So drop the window and/or adjust the door mirror, what's the problem?

Also, before you get in the car it's good pratice to walk round the back and memorise what obstructions may have to be avoided, (and a quick look at the tyres). It's not that difficult - how did we all manage manoevering before the days of all these modern gizmos? We all used a bit of common sense! And if you think the rear visibility of a Kodiaq is bad, try reversing an Austin 10, (no wing mirrors at all and a very small rear window), or an A30, (with wing mirrors so far forward you couldn't reach them to adjust them and with a very limited field of view).

Remember, this is an old fart talking, from the days of SU carburetors and dash pots, (ask your Dad), distributors, leaded petrol, oil changes every 3,000 miles, cross ply tyres, no seat belts, no air bags, no ABS, no servo assisted brakes, no power steering, no tyre pressure monitoring, no front radar, etc. etc. etc. etc............. How did we ever manage I wonder?

OK, I'm ready for the flak! You youngsters feel free to fire off a few volleys at me.

:roll:

Opening a window or adjusting a door mirror is not as useful as opening a door though. First of all it is much slower having to wait for a window to open or operate a mirror, more so in busy traffic and people beeping impatiently. Secondly when I open a door I can see where the car is from the A pillar all the way to the back of the car including up the back to the rear of the roof and I can see with my own eyes rather than through a camera which quite possibly has introduced distortions depending on the focal length of its lens. Also, and I find this with the reversing camera, using the infotainment screen to view the camera means I'm looking the wrong way! I'm looking forward when I should be looking back. These reversing cameras need screens at the back of the car so that when you are looking back you see the camera screen AND you are looking the right way. Thinking about it as I write this putting the screen in the dash is not the best place!

As long as somebody doesn't take the door, (and your hand), off as they pass too close!!!

Indeed! But the car has door mirrors (I almost typed wing mirrors) and one assumes that the driver will at some point need to exit the car by opening the door anyway.

 

[Old and Grumpy]

Opening a window or adjusting a door mirror is not as useful as opening a door though. First of all it is much slower having to wait for a window to open or operate a mirror, more so in busy traffic and people beeping impatiently. Secondly when I open a door I can see where the car is from the A pillar all the way to the back of the car including up the back to the rear of the roof and I can see with my own eyes rather than through a camera which quite possibly has introduced distortions depending on the focal length of its lens. Also, and I find this with the reversing camera, using the infotainment screen to view the camera means I'm looking the wrong way! I'm looking forward when I should be looking back. These reversing cameras need screens at the back of the car so that when you are looking back you see the camera screen AND you are looking the right way. Thinking about it as I write this putting the screen in the dash is not the best place!

As long as somebody doesn't take the door, (and your hand), off as they pass too close!!!

Indeed! But the car has door mirrors (I almost typed wing mirrors) and one assumes that the driver will at some point need to exit the car by opening the door anyway.

Which is exactly why "The Dutch Reach" is now recommended before opening the door to exit. If not intending to exit then do not create a potential hazard by opening the door.

 

[Guest]

As long as somebody doesn't take the door, (and your hand), off as they pass too close!!!

Indeed! But the car has door mirrors (I almost typed wing mirrors) and one assumes that the driver will at some point need to exit the car by opening the door anyway.

Which is exactly why "The Dutch Reach" is now recommended before opening the door to exit. If not intending to exit then do not create a potential hazard by opening the door.

It could be done in the infotainment. When you pull the door handle the infotainment asks "Are you sure you want to open the drivers door?". Hitting the "Yes" button would release the door or, if the car has suitable side and rear radar, the car could refuse saying "I'm sorry but I can't open the door at this time, please try again later".

There's a technology solutiion to everything.

 

[Old and Grumpy]

Indeed! But the car has door mirrors (I almost typed wing mirrors) and one assumes that the driver will at some point need to exit the car by opening the door anyway.

Which is exactly why "The Dutch Reach" is now recommended before opening the door to exit. If not intending to exit then do not create a potential hazard by opening the door.

It could be done in the infotainment. When you pull the door handle the infotainment asks "Are you sure you want to open the drivers door?". Hitting the "Yes" button would release the door or, if the car has suitable side and rear radar, the car could refuse saying "I'm sorry but I can't open the door at this time, please try again later".

There's a technology solutiion to everything.

One more bit of technology to negate the need for a driver to engage the brain before taking action! :lol: My tongue is firmly in my cheek! :lol:

 

[Zach]

It could be done in the infotainment. When you pull the door handle the infotainment asks "Are you sure you want to open the drivers door?". Hitting the "Yes" button would release the door or, if the car has suitable side and rear radar, the car could refuse saying "I'm sorry but I can't open the door at this time, please try again later".

There's a technology solutiion to everything.

I'm all for a warning in the instrument binnacle and ambient lighting like what the new high end Euros, but needing my confirmation to unlock the door? Any brand that does that can stick it. If you're going to be an idiot who doesn't know how to use your eyes, then you shouldn't even be on the roads in the first place.

 

[FoxtrotAlpha]

It could be done in the infotainment. When you pull the door handle the infotainment asks "Are you sure you want to open the drivers door?". Hitting the "Yes" button would release the door or, if the car has suitable side and rear radar, the car could refuse saying "I'm sorry but I can't open the door at this time, please try again later".

There's a technology solutiion to everything.

I'm all for a warning in the instrument binnacle and ambient lighting like what the new high end Euros, but needing my confirmation to unlock the door? Any brand that does that can stick it. If you're going to be an idiot who doesn't know how to use your eyes, then you shouldn't even be on the roads in the first place.

Totally agree.

I also read on here that visibility is an issue, I have not found that at all in the Kodiaq.

 

[Old and Grumpy]

It could be done in the infotainment. When you pull the door handle the infotainment asks "Are you sure you want to open the drivers door?". Hitting the "Yes" button would release the door or, if the car has suitable side and rear radar, the car could refuse saying "I'm sorry but I can't open the door at this time, please try again later".

There's a technology solutiion to everything.

I'm all for a warning in the instrument binnacle and ambient lighting like what the new high end Euros, but needing my confirmation to unlock the door? Any brand that does that can stick it. If you're going to be an idiot who doesn't know how to use your eyes, then you shouldn't even be on the roads in the first place.

Totally agree.

I also read on here that visibility is an issue, I have not found that at all in the Kodiaq.

I agree. No worse than my old Superb Twinhatch!